Palin inhaled, but still wants to jail you for inhaling

[Markass]

I think that being pro pot is a big indication of having common sense...

[daihashi]

I think that being pro pot is a big indication of having common sense...

No offense, but no it's not. Cannabis does not make the world go round and cannabis does not give you common sense. Being supportive of cannabis does not give you common sense either.

Here is the definition of common sense from Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Online

common sense


Main Entry:
common sense
Function:
noun
Date:
1726

: sound and prudent judgment based on a simple perception of the situation or facts

You perceive it one way.. she perceives it another. The difference is that you refuse to try to understand why she might feel that way. The only way to try to address a difference in perception is to address your representative and give your thoughts/explanations.

But honestly 3/4 of the people on this board won't even get off their ass to do that.

[melodious fellow]

And that message would be what, â??Donâ??t smoke marijuana kids, you might grow up to be mayor, governor, and a vice-presidential candidate some day?â?� [/url]

Because we all know that people who smoke marijuana never do anything with their lives :wtf:


With the invention of the internet, there is no excuse to be ignorant. Palin is a fool if she cannot spend a few minutes researching something before she takes a stance on the issue. Perhaps, if she was an intelligent person, she would have researched cannabis before she put it into her body the first time.

Unless she already knew it was harmless... which would make her a hypocrite and a liar, while subtly implying to her kids that alcohol and tobacco are acceptable.

This leaves only two options: she is a lazy fool OR she is a hypocrite/corrupter of the youth

peace :rastasmoke:

[daihashi]

Quoting from CBS link

"Palin has said she doesn't support legalizing the drug, fearing the message it would send to her five children."

1st: She doesnt have to support "legalization" a mere decriminalization is by itself good enough in this traditionally conservative pool of people we live in.

What's wrong with not supporting it. It's her right. Obama is against the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act

Here is an excerpt from the washington post: Michael Gerson - Obama's Abortion Extremism - washingtonpost.com

But Obama's record on abortion is extreme. He opposed the ban on partial-birth abortion -- a practice a fellow Democrat, the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan, once called "too close to infanticide." Obama strongly criticized the Supreme Court decision upholding the partial-birth ban. In the Illinois state Senate, he opposed a bill similar to the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which prevents the killing of infants mistakenly left alive by abortion. And now Obama has oddly claimed that he would not want his daughters to be "punished with a baby" because of a crisis pregnancy -- hardly a welcoming attitude toward new life.

So everyone tell me, what is more bothering.. the fact that someone says that you can't smoke Marijuana that you're going to smoke anyway regardless of the laws, or someone saying that a baby that is born alive during an abortion has to be killed.

The only reason I brought up this example (which was not for you in particular but rather other posters) was to show where people's priorities are. People on here are complaining about not being able to legally smoke Cannabis and Obama is criticizing the partial birth ban. I think it should be conditional (based upon the likelihood of survival and the health of the child), but Obama doesn't believe in conditions and believes it should be the womans right to kill the child even if it is born breathing and it's heart beating on it's own.

Personally I can tolerate someone telling me it's illegal for me to smoke over someone telling me it's ok to kill pre-mature babies that are born living and breathing due to failed abortions.

Don't want to hurt the child? Put the baby up for adoption.

2nd: A parent will teach their children what they think is right and good for them, how is that she thinks the government policy will override her teachings, something wrong there?

Well let's bring this back to sex education. Why is it ok for the school system to impose something on kids their parents may not even want? It's a similar situation but in reverse.

3rd: She smoked and inhaled weed as she has admitted to it herself, we dont know and cant know if she enjoyed it or not for fact! we probably cant even find out how long she smoked it or if it was just once. come on! anyone can smoke in secrecy alone and cover all signs and later say i didnt enjoy it and denounce it.

We don't actually know except that she said she didn't enjoy it. Believe it or not there are a good number of people who don't enjoy smoking pot. Again, did you ever do anything in your teenage years or when you were younger only to think when you were much older that there was no way in hell you would do that again and you were stupid for trying?

I know there are a few in my past. This is where Sarah Palin is coming from.

promoting Personal Liberty, meaning whatever i do in my private as long as it doesnt hurt any1 else's life or property is my own damn matter and nonna governments business (or anyone else's 4 that matter), is never a wrong message to send to any1's children. in fact that is the best message a righteous politician can send to their children. but if she thinks her children would have a different perception and understanding from such a message, then i highly doubt she has done any good parenting short of baseless idealistic brainwashing in regards with this subject... I think she fears it will make her children hate her as a parent! lol

So do you believe in actual personal liberty, or just when it comes to smoking cannabis? Because many of the social programs in this country are designed in a way to where we actually lose liberty.

So which is it? government stay out of our lives or let the politicians make policies that they think are for the best for the MAJORITY of the population?

Because if you say they should mind their own business, then you would have to apply this to many other situations as well to services that you may support. Personally I feel the government is in our business way too much; but I understand her point of view and do not fault her for it (I simply strongly disagree with her views, but not fault).

Everyone here is so gung ho about cannabis they don't even stop to think for a second "hey, why might she feel that way." and then actually write her to give her your thoughts.

It's one thing to bitch and complain and do nothing like so many people do, it's another to get off your ass and be pro-active about it.

I mean honestly is Marijuana what we're going to get our panties in a wad? With more and more states becoming pro MMJ I don't feel that this is as serious of an issue as everyone thinks. We've made advances by leaps in bounds in the last 10 years and will continue to do so. We've had anti-marijuana propaganda for the last 100 years, it's going to take time to get EVERYONE to understand.

The Civil rights movement didn't happen overnight either. Be patient and be pro-active if you want to advocate change otherwise I feel people honestly have no room to criticize others on how they view Marijuana.

[daihashi]

It's worth noting that Obama retracted his support for deciminalizing Marijuana a while back; so would you rather someone stick by their beliefs or have someone who says one thing and then flakes out on you? He has also admitted to smoking.

Washington Times - Obama flip-flops on pot

For instance, in MSNBC's Oct. 30 presidential debate, Mr. Obama hesitantly raised his hand and joined with most of his Democratic rivals to declare that he opposed decriminalizing marijuana.

In 2004 he supported it.. go figure :hippy:

Why is no one here jumping on him for that?

[MIDNIGHTspecial]

when I see things like this, and then hear the conservatives calling liberals 'fascists,' it makes me so damn mad. These are the people who are the fascists, who think that their way of life and set of morals are so damn great, that they can force them on the rest of the country. It's people like this, who want to tell women what to do with their bodies, who want to censor important information about sex given to our youth (and prevent teen pregnancies and by extension, abortions), who think they can decide who can marry who, the people that want to deny people their medicine based on outdated lies, and who are wasting taxpayer dollars jailing innocent people, that scare me more than the terrorists, because at the end of the day, fanaticism in any of its forms is a dangerous thing.

[daihashi]

when I see things like this, and then hear the conservatives calling liberals 'fascists,' it makes me so damn mad. These are the people who are the fascists, who think that their way of life and set of morals are so damn great, that they can force them on the rest of the country. It's people like this, who want to tell women what to do with their bodies, who want to censor important information about sex given to our youth (and prevent teen pregnancies and by extension, abortions), who think they can decide who can marry who, the people that want to deny people their medicine based on outdated lies, and who are wasting taxpayer dollars jailing innocent people, that scare me more than the terrorists, because at the end of the day, fanaticism in any of its forms is a dangerous thing.

It happens on both sides. Use your other hand that's not pointing the finger to the right and use it to point your finger to the left. The problem is neither left nor right but rather the 2 party system.

[veggii]

It would behoove Ms Palin too be very careful stating her veiws on issue's KARMA carries a big Hammer, it would be just like karma to make one of her grandchildren autistic/bi-polar/add/rages and making the only medicine that will work, yup you guessed it Medical Marijuana. I think congrees needs to sit down and realize that it is the only medicine in alot of severe cases that works ! Expesially in children , have you got Mental Health problems ? have you tried MMJ yet ! there are so many parents and families that are treating their children and been saved by this miracle drug, she should be thaking god for creating and making LEGAL. I vote no for her and I believe you guys are rite she is a hypocrite, funny thing I know a few old people who are like her they smoked weed bought & sold too make $$$ when they were younger and know they are rich and denounce it, what a crock of shit, they will lie and say anything too fit their own agenda. thats what a con-artist does, she knows THC is a blessing & and a valid drug for several treatments, its the pharmacutical companies controlling everyone to get rich they will put anything in a pill and sell it too get filthy stinking rich they are no more than mere street scum scum of the earth , LEGALIZE your 8 yr old childs medicine know!

[MIDNIGHTspecial]

It happens on both sides. Use your other hand that's not pointing the finger to the right and use it to point your finger to the left. The problem is neither left nor right but rather the 2 party system.

well put. I understand fully what you're saying, and yes, I'm willing to grant that neither side is perfect. My problem is the restricting and constricting control that they want to have over everybody, which wouldn't be a problem if they stepped off their moral high horse and realized that what people do in their own homes is their business, as long as it doesn't hurt anybody.

[daihashi]

well put. I understand fully what you're saying, and yes, I'm willing to grant that neither side is perfect. My problem is the restricting and constricting control that they want to have over everybody, which wouldn't be a problem if they stepped off their moral high horse and realized that what people do in their own homes is their business, as long as it doesn't hurt anybody.

The problem is not necessarily the law itself or congress telling us what to do... fact of the matter is that as long as Marijuana maintains the negative stigma that has been looming above it for nearly the last century then it is possible that even if you smoke it in your own home that you could be hurting somebody. Not on a physical level but perhaps a child on a mental or emotional level. When everyone makes fun of pot heads or thinks that people who smoke pot are lazy and stupid then it stands to reason that if a kid comes home to that then it could be uncomfortable with the child.

This is where good parenting should come in and teach the kid that there is nothing wrong with marijuana; but when everyone is in your face telling you it's bad then it's hard to believe otherwise even if your parents tell you it's not.

The real problem here is with Marijuana activism. We are not out in the public enough, our voices are not heard enough, we do not physically go out and battle legislation ourselves.

Until we can show people that marijuana users are not the stereo types that you would have them believe; I think we will have difficulty getting anything approved. Regardless of what type of congress we have.

We need to show them marijuana users are responsible. How many pro-marijuana rallies has anyone been to?

How many pro-marijuana rallies has anyone been to that did not involve breaking the law by smoking pot on the premises or listening to a bunch of rock bands but rather listen to a real advocate for marijuana give a speech outlining all the negative things (including impact to local economy (not talking about drug sales... talking about tax use and time lost on the job for being incarcerated, albeit indirectly).

To be fair, when I hear most marijuana users try to explain why it should be legal I just shake my head because it's so drowned full of bias it's disgusting. It's no wonder various people don't take us seriously; many people who argue it don't try to present it from a neutral point of view.

Until we can eliminate the stereotype/stigma we have then there will always be reason to believe that you may be harming someone else by smoking pot.

And until we can learn to present our arguments from a neutral point of view I doubt the government will take us seriously from a total decriminalization standpoint.