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    What Specific Accomplishments/Experience Does Palin Have?

    Quote Originally Posted by texas grass
    so she stole 300m from the federal government and nothing happened. shes a criminal that cant be trusted.

    stealing 300m is a criminal act. plain and simple
    To steal it the money would've had to of gone back into her own pocket. Which I don't believe it would otherwise she'd probably be indicted with Ted Stevens.

    In either case I do believe this can hurt her and the McCain campaign. McCain has always opposed earmarks and is one of the main things he campaigns on. Now we have Palin who claims to be a reformer but has this earmark money.

    I'm not sure what happened. Maybe the money was already dumped into the bridge/roads that never got finished? Maybe it just went back int Alaska's revenue? I really don't know, but alaska has a nice surplus and I agree that the money should be given back to the federal government, I don't agree that she performed a criminal act.

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    #102
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    What Specific Accomplishments/Experience Does Palin Have?

    Yeah... I am definitely trying to stay objective here and not condemn anyone this early. Information is literally flooding the media and it is difficult to wade through the bullshit spin fest.

    While the definition of theft or criminal act may not apply to this money situation... would that make it just? This is IF the information regarding the 300,000,000 is true. If I were to ask for funds from an outside source... and then use those funds for anything other than the original intended purpose... I would hope that someone would hold me accountable. It seems that people want to talk about the growing debt our country is putting on itself... but doesn't want to play hardball with the people spending the money. It's plain logic. You ask for something for a specific purpose... you abandon that original purpose... you return the money because it wasn't approved for ANYTHING other than that original purpose. Whether or not the State needed it doesn't matter. Although, with their surplus it should be obvious that it could have been better utilized elsewhere. Government money is distributed for specific reasons. While it may technically NOT be criminal in the sense that it was intentionally misused or physically stolen from someone... it is still highly irresponsible.

    Example: You beg your little old grandmother for $200 to buy textbooks for next semester... you drop out of school and use the money to buy an Xbox 360 :wtf: Is it criminal? Maybe... maybe not. Is it right?

    All of this relies on the information being accurate :jointsmile: Just throwing stuff out there.

    This race is so intense. What an incredible time to be a young American. This time period is going to have some long chapters in the history books of the future.

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    #103
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    What Specific Accomplishments/Experience Does Palin Have?

    Quote Originally Posted by daihashi
    It's not that.. it's that by definition a Theory is something that is not proven as true. So regardless of your argument.. any scientific theory is still a theory and not fact.

    You can have all the models in the world but it doesn't make you right unless you can prove it.

    Science and creationism are in the same boat essentially no matter how you roll the dice. Science is just in the better position to win this fight, and probably by a landslide at that. :hippy:
    Exactly. Theories are not absolutes. At anytime it could be debunked. Big bang theory could be 100% wrong, but at this current time it's the best explanation we have until further answers are sought. One time, the conventional theory was the earth was flat. But the basis of that was from what we saw at the present time, conventional wisdom. It was based on what people saw. There were no further avenues at the time to prove otherwise. Then of course, it became fact that the world was round and it was debunked.

    The difference though between theories like the big bang, and creationism is there's far more basis for it. For example, can we prove that Moses was alive? Did he leave behind some possessions that could be carbon-dated. The process of the scientific method in creationism is lacking.

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