is the house's owner held accountable, as well as the resident grower?

[stinkyattic]

As you are no doubt aware, there are many states with active legal MMJ programs, and many MORE states with up and coming legislation to put MMJ on the books.

This site exists to support people who benefit from medical marijuana; I fail to see the hypocrisy in that- it is a large and growing demographic, with a bright future! While certainly our site may help prospective cashcroppers learn to grow, that is simply a side-effect of teaching everyone else to produce their own medicine safely and cheaply, and with a sense of personal pride in their work.

Be active, be positive, be safe!

[khronik]

No it doesn't depend on where you live. Federal law is federal law. The owner of the property will most likely take at least part of the blame. Of course things can be worked out with good lawyers; but it doesn't depend on where you live this is something you should anticipate regardless of where you make home.

Bad Advice.

Not at all. Most small growing operations are prosecuted under state law, not federal law, so looking up state law is certainly helpful. Of course, if you're transporting weed across state lines for any reason, then the feds are much more likely to get involved. And a lot of people have older parents who own multiple houses. Just because their parents let them stay in their second house, doesn't mean they're not an adult.

I do like daihashi's idea of talking to a lawyer saying that you own property and you want to know if you're legally responsible if your tenant grows weed.

[psychocat]

I do like daihashi's idea of talking to a lawyer saying that you own property and you want to know if you're legally responsible if your tenant grows weed.

Yes the landlord is responsible for what he allows to occur on his premises.
He is bound by law to carry out regular inspections of the property to prevent illegal use of said property wether it is for business or a dwelling.

[flyingimam]

Not at all. Most small growing operations are prosecuted under state law, not federal law, so looking up state law is certainly helpful.

helpful >> maybe
makes a different>> NO

this is where the dilemma lies man!

DEA is a federal agency, most considerable grows busted are busted by or in part by federal agents of DEA and sometimes even FBI & US Marshals

State LEO may always be at disposal for use however!

as for small grows, well u gotta be a freakin idiot to get busted with a small grow... cuz technically u shouldn't raise any attention if u r a small timer and if u know what u r doing

however, the base line is FEDERAL LAW prohibits marijuana cultivation and possession and thats why in the first place anyone would wanna bust a grow... state laws in violation have little to no effect and state laws in support of federal law are kinda taken from this fed law itself, thus local authorities essentially are using the federal law to bust ya!

[the image reaper]

helpful >> maybe
makes a different>> NO

this is where the dilemma lies man!

DEA is a federal agency, most considerable grows busted are busted by or in part by federal agents of DEA and sometimes even FBI & US Marshals

State LEO may always be at disposal for use however!

as for small grows, well u gotta be a freakin idiot to get busted with a small grow... cuz technically u shouldn't raise any attention if u r a small timer and if u know what u r doing

however, the base line is FEDERAL LAW prohibits marijuana cultivation and possession and thats why in the first place anyone would wanna bust a grow... state laws in violation have little to no effect and state laws in support of federal law are kinda taken from this fed law itself, thus local authorities essentially are using the federal law to bust ya!

yup :jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

Yes the landlord is responsible for what he allows to occur on his premises.

^^^This right here is THE MOST IMPORTANT concept in this thread.^^^

The law does not state that the landlord is responsible for everything going on on his property. He is responsible for activities of which he is AWARE.

Your job as the tenant, to protect the landlord, is to do such a good job keeping it from his knowledge that when he is questioned, he can HONESTLY say, "I did not allow that to happen, and I was not aware that it was happening." If you have done your part, you have provided something called 'reasonable doubt', and that is how cases get thrown out.

[macnasty]

The law does not state that the landlord is responsible for everything going on on his property. He is responsible for activities of which he is AWARE.

Case scenario: electric bill increases suddenly by X dollars a month, and remains so indeterminately. Property owner inevitably notices the change in the monthly bill, but takes no action. Property owners worldwide are seeing similar sudden and permanent changes to their household bills. Question: can they still reasonably claim ignorance? Remember, this is a SUDDEN and CONSISTENT (and exciting!) change to the otherwise mundane bill they're used to receiving each month.

[stinkyattic]

I would say that there are enough other reasons for a change in the utility bill that there IS reasonable doubt in this situation. Scenario: Tenant bought a plasma screen TV. Scenario: Tenant has fallen ill and is running a space heater. There are many. I would NEVER grow in a place where the landlord pays electric, however. That is just too far out of your control as a factor in your privacy.

[psychocat]

It isn't a simple case of being unaware , the law also states that it is a lanlords responsibility to ensure that thier property isn't being misused.
This means that they must carry out regular inspections of the property to prevent any misuse , the law is very specific in this as it has been a get out in the past for landlords "turning a blind eye".
The law was ammended to make the responsibility of landlord and tenant clear.

[jer001]

thats why the police have been knocking on my door :wtf: