Thanks for the hydroplex advice WH. I will try this.

Rusty i do water often. It is consistently 90-100+ where i am at, and they are definitely dry when i water them...sometimes too dry ....hard to keep up.

As for flushing out the nutes i would say a definite possibility. That combined with not feeding them enough = plants that look like mine.

Overall i am not too disgruntled over the whole thing because i still have a few 6 ft.ers that are looking healthy and starting to crystal up.

Foxysox i as well want to thank you for sharing "fuckulated" with me. very descriptive. As for rootbound, the plants are about 3 ft tall in 4 gallon pots, and some having the same issues are in 20 Gallon bags. I appreciate the sharing of your thoughts.