Quote Originally Posted by thcbongman
I take it you never had a serious health problem. I take it you live in a little pipe dream, everything me me me me me me me me me me, right? I don't like Obama at all and I find what you wrote to be absolutely sickening and disgusting as a human being, not even about left and right. You are simply misguided.
Why does every 'sick' person think that when we say "hand-out" we are talking about them.

There is an obvious difference between people who ARE capable to provide for themselves and others who are NOT capable. I have no idea why everyone on this forum is hyper sensitive whenever someone mentions wasteful use of resources.

You would have to be living in an alternate universe to deny that this happens and that it is harmful to our country. There are people who do indeed sit at home who are capable to provide for themselves but choose to live off the government instead. These are the people that myself and many people who bring up this topic are referring to.

Honestly I'm getting tired of defending myself. Although this post wasn't addressed at me I share Onein1's point of view.

Get a grip, conservatives are not as cold hearted as people would like to believe.


I'm not asking for a hand-out. Infact I work harder than you.
uhh how can you even say that or prove it. This is a forum and it's moot to even bring it up. That's like saying my wang is bigger than yours. No one really knows. I'm not sure what the work harder statement was supposed to prove aside that you're sick and working.

That's because I have no choice. I am sick in America. In order to maintain my insurance I have to work. I have to make a lot of hard choices.
As callous as the following may sound which is more important to you? Maintaining your health as best as is currently possible or the alternative? Have you tried applying for benefits?

Truthfully I came back from the doctor today. He insisted I should go into ER to get an MRI on my brain. I'm not going. Why? I have to work in the morning, in addition of going to school, in addition to taking care of my father who has cancer as well. I can't put myself in a position to get fired.
If you don't get an MRI and something happens to you then what will happen to everyone else who may depend on you and care for you? Can you put yourself in a position to let these people down or put them through sorrow?

I'm not saying this to be a dick but rather to put things i perspective. Yes a job is important, yes insurance is important... but if you don't make it to tomorrow then what was the point at all? You can sit back and blame the government who has had no responsibility in the unfortunate illness you have or you can try to live as best as you can. Taking care of your *own* health should be YOUR primary responsibility and then look to the government for aid. If you're completely unable to work due to being sick then yes, I believe assistance should be handed out to these individuals as well as the handicapped (truely handicap, not people who get handicap stickers when they just have arthritis in their wrists.. WTF).


My company fired a co-worker who had severe health problems because she couldn't work full-time, even with doctors order. They don't care, they fire you. Welcome to America bitch, you just arrived because you are obivious.
Welcome to America, start hunting for another job that is more sensible and compassionate towards your needs. I'm sure your employer is not the only employer in your area for your field.

Hell yeah if you are sick, unable to work because you are sick, shouldn't someone step in and give a little assistance? Or do they die in this country like a street dog, in other words, like you suggest? Do you not care about fellow citizens of your country or are you seriously that self-absorbed?
I think if you're truely unable to work because you're sick that you should get assistance. As a matter of fact I would like to see Social Security reformed to eliminate the retirement income portion of it (it's so screwed anyway) and put those funds into expanding Medicaid and Medicare to make it a true health care support system.

It's not that we're self absorbed.. it's that we don't enjoy wasteful spending. It's not America's job to provide for those who are capable. This nation was founded on the mentality that everyone is capable to achieve great things. It was founded on the notion that THE PEOPLE make up the country and not the government.

I wish to stay true to our founding fathers vision.


PS: The following should've been a key indicator that the poster was not talking about the sick:

Pfff sorry you got in a crash dude but I aint paying for sum bum's healthcare when he destroys his own health and I hit the gym everyday and eat right.
Here he was obviously talking about someone who purposefully goes out and fucks up their health. Not someone who gets a debilitating disease.