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    Science Disproves Evolution

    Compatible Senders and Receivers

    Only intelligence creates codes, programs, and information (CP&I). Each involves senders and receivers. Senders and receivers can be people, animals, plants, organs, cells, or certain molecules. (The DNA molecule is a prolific sender.) The CP&I in a message must be understandable and beneficial to both sender and receiver; otherwise, the effort expended in transmitting and receiving messages (written, chemical, electrical, magnetic, visual, and auditory) will be wasted.

    Consider the astronomical number of links (message channels) that exist between potential senders and receivers: from the cellular level to complete organisms, from bananas to bacteria to babies, and across all of time since life began. All must have compatible understandings (CP&I) and equipment (matter and energy). Designing compatibilities of this magnitude requires one or more superintelligences. Furthermore, these superintelligence(s) must completely understand how matter and energy behave over time. In other words, the superintelligence(s) must have made, or at least mastered, the laws of chemistry and physics wherever senders and receivers are found. The simplest, most parsimonious way to integrate all of life is for there to be only one superintelligence.

    Also, the sending and receiving equipment, including its energy sources, must be in place and functional before communication begins. But the preexisting equipment provides no benefit until useful messages begin arriving. Therefore, intelligent foresight (planning) is mandatory??something nature cannot do.

    In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood - 16.   Compatible Senders and Receivers
    Pahu78 Reviewed by Pahu78 on . Science Disproves Evolution Compatible Senders and Receivers Only intelligence creates codes, programs, and information (CP&I). Each involves senders and receivers. Senders and receivers can be people, animals, plants, organs, cells, or certain molecules. (The DNA molecule is a prolific sender.) The CP&I in a message must be understandable and beneficial to both sender and receiver; otherwise, the effort expended in transmitting and receiving messages (written, chemical, electrical, magnetic, visual, and auditory) will Rating: 5

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    Science Disproves Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by 420_24/7
    Even if every single thing you said in your post was proven true, which I really don't believe, this one line, I am absolutely sure, is not proven or even able to be proven.

    Let me give it a try: When we set out to explain why and how something happens, we must use the evidence, facts and experience available to us if we are to arrive at a logical conclusion. Using available evidence, experience, facts, observation and experimentation, we know that the universe had a beginning and that before that beginning there was no universe and therefore there was nothing. We know this because of the Law of Causality (for every cause there is an effect and for every effect there is a cause). Based on this law, we can use the following logic:

    1. The universe exists.
    2. The universe had a beginning.
    3. Before the beginning of the universe, there was no universe.
    4. Since there was no universe, there was nothing.
    5. Since the universe does exist, it came from nothing.
    6. Nothing comes from nothing by any natural cause.
    7. Therefore the cause of the universe is supernatural.
    8. Life exists.
    9. Life always comes from pre-existing life of the same kind (the Law of Biogenesis).
    10. Life cannot come from nonliving matter by any natural cause.
    11. Since life does exist, the cause of life is supernatural.

    Many people with a naturalistic worldview assume everything can be explained by natural causes. From the beginning, they reject the possibility of a supernatural cause. Because of this they are left with no scientifically valid answers to the question of how the universe could come from nothing, which is impossible by any natural cause of which we are aware. Many answers have been proposed that go beyond the realm of known evidence, experience, facts, observation and experimentation and therefore enter the realm of fiction.

    The same logic applies to life. Using available evidence, experience, facts, observation and experimentation, we know that life only comes from pre-existing life of the same kind.

    ??Spontaneous generation (the emergence of life from nonliving matter) has never been observed. All observations have shown that life comes only from life. This has been observed so consistently it is called the Law of Biogenesis. Evolution conflicts with this scientific law by claiming that life came from nonliving matter through natural processes? (From In the Beginning by Walt Brown, Ph.D. page 5). [http://www.creationscience.com/]

    Life never comes from non-living matter by any natural cause of which we are aware.

    Now that we have seen proof that God exists, using logic based on known evidence, experience, facts, observation and experimentation, we need to see if He has revealed Himself to us. In the Holy Bible there are hundreds of prophecies given by God who is speaking in the first person. In both Bible and secular history we find that those prophecies have been accurately fulfilled. No other writing on earth comes close to doing this! Only God can accurately reveal the future, ergo, He is the author of the Holy Bible. Within the pages of the Holy Bible He reveals His nature, our nature, His relationship to us, our need for salvation and His plan of salvation for us.

    The reason the universe and life cannot come from nothing by any natural cause, but can come from a supernatural cause is because God is the self-existent creator of everything and everyone. He is not subject to His creation. He created it and sustains it. It is a mistake to judge God by human standards and human perspectives. God reveals that He is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent.

    If you are interested in more detailed proof, read, ??Evidence that Demands a Verdict? by Josh McDowell.

    [From ??Reincarnation in the Bible?? http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/b...0-595-12387-2]

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    Science Disproves Evolution

    Evolutionism does not apply to everything such as humans but there are many instances when it is true though

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    Science Disproves Evolution

    So given that my CNS has cannabinoid receptors that means that the creator intended for me to be high all the time.

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    Science Disproves Evolution

    Haven't you ever heard of self-organizing systems? Complex organizations of what you've called "senders and receivers" that crystallize into shape without foresight or planning.

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    Science Disproves Evolution

    Only intelligence creates codes, programs, and information (CP&I).
    Only intelligence recognizes codes, programs and information as codes, programs and information.

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    Science Disproves Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Pahu78
    Designing compatibilities of this magnitude requires one or more superintelligences.
    Even if every single thing you said in your post was proven true, which I really don't believe, this one line, I am absolutely sure, is not proven or even able to be proven.

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    Science Disproves Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Billionfold
    We are all just physical manifestations of electricity signals.
    We are the physical result of interacting psychokinetic signals.
    At least thats how i see it. :thumbsup:

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    Science Disproves Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by TurnyBright
    Haven't you ever heard of self-organizing systems? Complex organizations of what you've called "senders and receivers" that crystallize into shape without foresight or planning.
    The universe exists. Is it eternal or did it have a beginning? It could not be eternal since that would mean that an infinite amount of time had to be crossed to get to the present. But, you cannot cross an infinite amount of time (otherwise it wouldn't be infinite). Therefore, the universe had a beginning. Something cannot bring itself into existence. Therefore, something brought it into existence.

    What brought the universe into existence? It would have to be greater than the universe and be a sufficient cause to it. The Bible promotes this sufficient cause as God. What does atheism offer instead of God? If nothing, then atheism is not able to account for our own existence.

    The universe cannot be infinitely old or all useable energy would have been lost already (entropy). This has not occurred. Therefore, the universe is not infinitely old.

    All things that came into existence were caused to exist. You cannot have an infinite regression of causes (otherwise an infinity of time has been crossed which is impossible because an infinity cannot be crossed). Therefore, logically, there must be a single uncaused cause that did not come into existence.

    Naturalism is the belief that all phenomena can be explained in terms of natural causes and laws. If all things were explainable through natural laws, it does not mean God does not exist since God is, by definition, outside of natural laws since He is the creator of them.

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    Science Disproves Evolution

    Convergent Evolution or Intelligent Design? 1

    When the same complex capability is found in unrelated organisms but not in their alleged evolutionary ancestors, evolutionists say that a common need caused identical complexities to evolve. They call this convergent evolution.

    For example, wings and flight occur in some birds, insects, and mammals (bats). Pterosaurs, an extinct reptile, also had wings and could fly. These capabilities have not been found in any of their alleged common ancestors. Other examples of convergent evolution are the three tiny bones in the ears of mammals: the stapes, incus, and malleus. Their complex arrangement and precise fit give mammals the unique ability to hear a wide range of sounds. Evolutionists say that those bones evolved from bones in a reptile??s jaw. If so, the process must have occurred at least twice (a)??but left no known transitional fossils. How did the transitional organisms between reptiles and mammals hear during those millions of years (b)? Without the ability to hear, survival??and reptile-to-mammal evolution??would cease.

    Concluding that a miracle??or any extremely unlikely event??happened once requires strong evidence or faith; claiming that a similar ??miracle? happened repeatedly requires either incredible blind faith or a cause common to each event, such as a common designer.

    a. ??... the definitive mammalian middle ear evolved independently in living monotremes and therians (marsupials and placentals).? Thomas H. Rich et al., ??Independent Origins of Middle Ear Bones in Monotremes and Therians,? Science, Vol. 307, 11 February 2005, p. 910.

    ??Because of the complexity of the bone arrangement, some scientists have argued that the innovation arose just once??in a common ancestor of the three mammalian groups. Now, analyses of a jawbone from a specimen of Teinolophos trusleri, a shrew-size creature that lived in Australia about 115 million years ago, have dealt a blow to that notion.? Sid Perkins, ??Groovy Bones,? Science News, Vol. 167, 12 February 2005, p. 100.

    b. Also, for mammals to hear also requires the organ of Corti and complex ??wiring? in the brain. No known reptile (the supposed ancestor of mammals), living or fossil, has anything resembling this amazing organ.

    In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood - 17.   Convergent Evolution or Intelligent Design? 

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