Quote Originally Posted by 5thHorseMan
Yes subjective reality is unreal, because it's mutable in that it's different for each person, objective is true because it exists regardless and independant of our own wants and views.

the way a person percieves reality is fallable because they are themselves fallable, however objective reality avoids this by merely existing and nothing more.
hey 5th, we've just tired the crap out of eachother haven't we. lol :> I agree, I'm just not sure how this objective reality "gets past" our totally unobjective subjective reality, its sorta like as soon as it enters us its not the same anymore cause it simplified re-rendered abstracted, but heh thats close enough for me guvnor !

I'm off to sleep now ;p will keep my eye on this thread though

Peace,
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