I dont see the argument their. his team still came up with almost every cup winner since shanti said that. Mr, nice seeds is well know for their product, but in 10 years of business where are their cups? point is if all the hype is coming form winning the cups, then why doesn't some bet them at their own game. even team up and take a years worth of cups away from him. but it doesn't happen. every year its green house with the mass amount of entries, free beees and deals during cup week. He is not losing money buy giving stuff away in fact I think he is making back 10 fold what he gives away. why doesn't anyone Else get in on this. a room full of cups is why they are on top. But everyone always comes short handed and talks till next year. when are we gonna see a cup takeover. its not like he has a strong hold over the city, because all the voters are from other country's and places. I dont like the green house much either, they are rude to Americans on the net and all of their new strains are Sativas which are hard to judge when judging indicas. So I think during cup week he is supper nice guy to everyone, giving shit away and giving deals to every one, so they vote for him on that not on the fact that the Sativas are the best. I never had the Lemon that won last year, but I was their when the Cheese should have won and his sativa won, Super silver haze (I don't even know which one he has like 3 or 4 named almost the same) This was about 3 or 4 years ago.