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08-24-2008, 01:14 PM #1
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I called a spade a spade. You want to rant? Be my guest...I do it often.
Originally Posted by daihashi
Each of our stances in this matter are subjective.
But since your morals and my morals are obviously on a different course...frankly I really don't give a shit what you think I should and should not be offended by. I'm not all that fond of political correctness, as it really relies on the drgradation of American values, traditions and religious beliefs, to recognize deviant morals as being acceptable. IMHO...YOU are the one "way out there".
Either way...it doesn't affect my grow, which is why I'm here in the first place. I do not come here to be insulted, offended or indoctrinated. Nor do I come here to practice my political dexterity. I come here because this site has been the best example of a legitimate Medical Cannabis information source available at this time.
Do you really find it acceptable to allow nazi bullshit, Islamo-facist rantings, false-prophet musings..., in a medical cannabis forum that caters folks from 18ish to 70ish? Obviously, I don't think it's appropriate.
Do you really believe the bullshit comparison between the quote and US policy? Gee...sounds to me like that quote is exactly how the democrats teach their lackeys to degrade conservative values, and twist facts to suit their agenda.
This is short-sighted, and likely a good way to lose all credibility from those that are a bit more mature, seeking info on their meds. You seem to want to turn this into an immature 'anything goes' playground...I'm fighting to keep it from becoming just that.
I've mentioned this before...it still stands...
If you want to discuss the facts of politics, let's do it in the right forum. I'll never back away from good political discourse with someone that's ready for the challenge.Rusty Trichome Reviewed by Rusty Trichome on . neutered male plants? ok. this may sound a bit odd but imma throw it out there back in my motherland I remember in my first years of smokin to meet with some badass guy who grew his own stuff and despite popularity of hash over marijuana would use mj for his consumption on regular basis. but, here is the but: the 1st time me and my friends smoked from his stash, 1 of us kinda went into a coma and actually had to get medical help then a few times after this happened he showed us the plant he had, it had Rating: 5
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08-24-2008, 02:36 PM #2
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It's not a rant, but rather this was a grow forum. He posted a question but rather than focus on the question you put your energy into something that was irrelevant. Will you make it a habit to do that often as well?
Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
You're right it is, and because it is subjective you don't have to comment on something else such as his quote. As I said before this is the grow forum, not any other social forum.Each of our stances in this matter are subjective.
For someone who's not offended you sure seem on the attack here. I'm glad you don't give a shit what I think. Obviously you not caring is allowing for some true colors to bleed through here. Good to see.But since your morals and my morals are obviously on a different course...frankly I really don't give a shit what you think I should and should not be offended by.
,I'm not all that fond of political correctness
ROFL!!! Have you seen some of my posts? What do *I* of all people have to do with political correctness. HAHA
Really? You are the one trying to enforce that FlyingImam is spreading hate and racism through his quote. This would seem to fall under being politically correct would it not? Yet you are not fond of political correctness?as it really relies on the drgradation of American values, traditions and religious beliefs, to recognize deviant morals as being acceptable. IMHO...YOU are the one "way out there".
Well ok, you lost me on that one. If you like to contradict yourself in one breath then by all means be my guest.
Again, the words that were quoted were not bad in themselves. You can't look beyond the name. Anything can be made good if it's said by the right person. If Winston Churchill had said that you'd be singing a different tune.
Hrm, you're here for growing but you berate people based on their signature. Yes, I see the relation between growing and bashing people. Thank you for the insight </sarcasm> :thumbsup:Either way...it doesn't affect my grow
You could've fooled me. Here you are taking a quote out of context, trying to force your own skewed view of that quote onto the rest of us. If you came here to talk about grows then talk about grows and leave it at that. Otherwise if you continue to do this you're just practiciing hypocrisy. Which if you want to do that then go for it.which is why I'm here in the first place. I do not come here to be insulted, offended or indoctrinated. Nor do I come here to practice my political dexterity.
You're right.. it does. Thank god that we don't come here for people's signatures that talk about how regardless of what type of government you have that you can gather the people back under you through the use of fear tactics; which holds no racism in it's words. I'm so grateful that's not why I come here; what a crappy forum that would be. </sarcasm>I come here because this site has been the best example of a legitimate Medical Cannabis information source available at this time.
Actually yes... I do find it acceptable. Again maybe your posts are better suited for the political forum. I don't believe flyingimam is a nazy, islamo-facist, or false prophet. I'm not so blinded by his quote that I can't see beyond the obvious.Do you really find it acceptable to allow nazi bullshit, Islamo-facist rantings, false-prophet musings..., in a medical cannabis forum that caters folks from 18ish to 70ish? Obviously, I don't think it's appropriate.
Want to know what the obvious is? IT IS JUST A QUOTE AND CONTAINS NO RACISM IN IT!!
And here you are trying to poke fun of whatever affiliation you may think I am. I am pragmatic, leaning admittingly a bit to the right. Due to your lack of understanding throughout this entire thread I'm fairly positive you don't know what that means. So here is the definition for you:Do you really believe the bullshit comparison between the quote and US policy? Gee...sounds to me like that quote is exactly how the democrats teach their lackeys to degrade conservative values, and twist facts to suit their agenda.
prag·mat·ic Audio Help /prægˈmætɪk/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[prag-mat-ik] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
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1. of or pertaining to a practical point of view or practical considerations.
2. Philosophy. of or pertaining to pragmatism (def. 2).
The whole reason for bringing up people would like to label me conservative was to point out the fact that here I am, someone that everyone wants to label conservative in the politics forum, yet I'm defending this guy on what would seemingly be a liberal stance.
Want to know why? Because your attack was unjustified. You saw the affiliation of the quote and decided it would be a nice gesture to berate the guy for no reason. All he asked was a grow question.
Guess what, if you didn't like what was in his quote you could've easily bitten your tongue, or given him the answer about his grow and then contacted a mod about it.
I'm not looking to gain or lose credibility. Honestly you look like a fool and you're fighting a battle that you've already lost.This is short-sighted, and likely a good way to lose all credibility from those that are a bit more mature, seeking info on their meds. You seem to want to turn this into an immature 'anything goes' playground...I'm fighting to keep it from becoming just that.
No Racism, No Personal Attacks on Others and or Co-Ops/Dispensaries, No threats of violence and/or the Like
You attacked him, but there was no actual racism in his post or in his signature. Again, you are the one in the wrong.
You're more than welcome to come into the politics forum. You're the one I never see in there. You bring this up as if this is some sort of grand master challenge when honestly I could care less, but if you bring up a topic that interests me in the politics forum you can be sure, as everyone who hates me in there can attest to, I will be there to disprove or agree with whatever points you bring up.I've mentioned this before...it still stands...
If you want to discuss the facts of politics, let's do it in the right forum. I'll never back away from good political discourse with someone that's ready for the challenge.
There is a difference between debating and discussing your opinion. I rarely discuss just my opinion, majority of my rebuttals are based on fact.... Fact is you jumped the gun.. you attacked this poor guy for no reason other than he quoted a Nazi.
No offense to you Rusty Trichome, but judging from these two posts I'm pretty sure you wouldn't last too long in the politics forum. I hope you're able to gather your thoughts in a more concise and organized manner that contains actual relevant information.
So one last time Rusty. Show me EXACTLYwhere the WORDS FlyingImam used are racist. :hippy:
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08-24-2008, 02:47 PM #3
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And rusty... did you even bother reading the last line in his quote?
Nowadays I just sit back as a silent spectator of politics & watch
In relation to his Nazi quote he posted this. Because he see's similarities between what's currently going on and what Hermann Göring said. There is no fault in that.
If you want to disprove him then do it the right way, in the politics forum and actually DISPROVE him... don't berate him. There is no actual hate posted in his signature.
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08-24-2008, 03:40 PM #4
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Bueller?..... Bueller?..... :jointsmile:
What was the question? Oh yeah...
I have never heard of it before, but that plucked Hermi theory sounds pretty cool to me. Can major stress and "nanner management" increase resin production that much?
Either way, this thread will probably be closed in a couple... so I wanted to second that suggestion :stoned:
Oh, and I agree... I see no racism in that statement whatsoever. I do not judge a person by their words, so much as their actions. Therefore, had I not known who originally spoke those words... I would have to agree with the statement. Since I do not judge people solely by their words, I find it hard to judge another person simply based on their reiteration of those words. I also noticed the sentence that followed regarding being a political spectator. It showed that he understood that we need to learn from history... not run from it. Good people do bad things... bad people do good things.... words never killed anyone.
To me... it's like getting all worked up for someone having the middle name "Hussein." :stoned:
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08-24-2008, 03:57 PM #5
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That I just find funny and Ironic given our presidential elections and our very recent past in Iraq. :thumbsup:
Originally Posted by TheMetal1
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08-24-2008, 04:16 PM #6
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Read my lips...As stated before it was the connection of his choice of idols he was quoting, and thusly honoring enough to quote...the explicit connection with his being second to hitler...and the motherland statement. All of which when combined, is offensive. I mentioned nothing about the content of the quote. If anyone took any quote out of context, twas you.
Personally, no, I do not care for those that defend this attitude of indifference twords nazis and racism, islamic facists, rogue cops, folks who "find" pot, and steal it to grow for themselves, murders, pedophiles, etc...
Yet you are saying I should have a heart, give the guy a break, and lower my moral standards for the sake of getting along with someone that presents quotes from a homocidal maniac committed to the genocide of millions of Jews? Not going to happen. He put it out there, his controversy is self-made. Nice to see someone sticking-up for him tho. However, I would love to hear from him again, as your protestations are falling on deaf ears.
There's a big difference between political correctness and living by a set of moral guidelines. My morals are mine, and the more you attempt to get me to lower my morals, the stronger the fight I wage.
But again...there is a forum we can further discuss the differences, if you'd like.
Must say tho...you sure are amusing when your panties are in a wad. :jointsmile:
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08-24-2008, 04:53 PM #7
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I'm done arguing this with you. I've asked you to prove his words of hate and racism and you've yet to do it.
Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
What the hell does this have to do with his quote?Personally, no, I do not care for those that defend this attitude of indifference twords nazis and racism, islamic facists, rogue cops, folks who "find" pot, and steal it to grow for themselves, murders, pedophiles, etc...
No I'm saying you should practice some common sense and be logical about this. Words are words.. his quote did not promote hate speech from the nazis but rather an ideal that can be seen still even today.Yet you are saying I should have a heart, give the guy a break, and lower my moral standards for the sake of getting along with someone that presents quotes from a homocidal maniac committed to the genocide of millions of Jews? Not going to happen. He put it out there, his controversy is self-made. Nice to see someone sticking-up for him tho. However, I would love to hear from him again, as your protestations are falling on deaf ears.
I'm not sticking up for him but rather the principle.
I'm not trying to get you to lower yours, but rather your level of ignorance towards his quote.There's a big difference between political correctness and living by a set of moral guidelines. My morals are mine, and the more you attempt to get me to lower my morals, the stronger the fight I wage.
Again I told you I more than welcome you to that forum. I frequent it. You're the one who's opting out. So please feel free to 'bring it'. I'm not holding you back. I have to admit I find it amusing this "meet behind the school at 3pm" type of mentality. As if you're going to beat me up or something?But again...there is a forum we can further discuss the differences, if you'd like.
Get some maturity.
I find it amusing how you try to paint me with your own emotions which are evident throughout this thread.Must say tho...you sure are amusing when your panties are in a wad.
I am going to let a mod handle this. You flew off the handle completely on this one and you need to chill out.
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08-24-2008, 05:19 PM #8
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lol, lol, lol. Whatever. :jointsmile:
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08-24-2008, 05:37 PM #9
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This was a reply I anticipated from you. Rather than address the actual points and avoiding something I asked you to prove you reply back with "lol whatever".
Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
I had hoped that you might redeem yourself by proving your case by linking the WORDS in his quote to racism/hate or by conceding. Either would have been fine with me and the former would've been very impressive.
My only regret in this is that my pointing out your attack only led to more mud flinging from you. Which in turn has changed my image of you on this forum. It is not your stance that changed my view but rather the manner in which you conducted yourself and the level of maturity you displayed.
I thought you would've interacted in a more adult manner.
Again, I am sure the mods will be looking at this thread and either cleaning it up or locking it.
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08-24-2008, 05:59 PM #10
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This one is closed for Stinkyattic to evaluate.
This is the grow section...you would think that this would be the area where people bond.
Have a good grow!:jointsmile:
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