Well... i just finished to reply this same thread in other sub-forum...

http://boards.cannabis.com/science/1...ml#post1901949

I think this two threads should be merged, so we could read all the replies at once.

Quote Originally Posted by hazetwostep
not that i do not agree with you... but how are you so sure that a chemically induced experience is a basis for describing reality?
Well... all our experiences are chemically-induced... our brain is always soaked with neurotransmitters, hormones, etc, and even so we percieve the "real" world and think its real...
BUT, what we call "real" is only and just only a perceptual consensus. When two (or more) people percieves one thing and agree about what theyre percieving, they say its real. The mere fact that more than one person is percieving something is NOT by any means an assurance that what they are percieving is indeed "real". (In fact, nothing is)
What if two (or more) people had used some hallucinogen and both saw "a dragon tap dancing on the mantle place", would it be real? For the ones who were percieving it, yes, it would be real. But for the ones who werent percieving it, it wouldnt be real. So, who is right?
Reality is only more one creation of our human minds, and not a thing in itself.