How does perlite effect PH?

[SnSstealth]

skush...I have found FFoF to have problems with Ph, and WATERLOGGING...I would add some perlite to that before transplanting. I have had issues with the last 2 grows from trusting the shop guy that FFoF was light enough on its own...And the FF runs hot as hell too....
just my :twocents: to help ya prevent a possible problem..

whiskeytango

heh....dice up limes...thanks for that, I needed a good laugh this morning

[veggii]

baking soda ,man I used it this morning before loggin on,geeez that stuff is strong! I used just a tiny amount from tip my finger! I'll be purchasing PH up.
I got the bakingsoda tip from the Spray 'n' Grow website. ofcourse not a mention of the Harm it can cause! ty Stinkyattic

[8182KSKUSH]

skush...I have found FFoF to have problems with Ph, and WATERLOGGING...I would add some perlite to that before transplanting. I have had issues with the last 2 grows from trusting the shop guy that FFoF was light enough on its own...And the FF runs hot as hell too....
just my :twocents: to help ya prevent a possible problem..

whiskeytango

heh....dice up limes...thanks for that, I needed a good laugh this morning

Roger Wilco on that. I have a big ass bag of perlite, in your opinion, how much would you add. I was going to start with 2-4 sacks of FFOF, should I dump the whole bag of perlite in with them? Right now I just have the 2 bags, but I am thinking I may need to get more obviously, (just what I could afford at the time), to get me through my first round anyway.
So is FF adding lots of lime to compensate for the "hotness" of the light warrior and ocean forrest or what? I thought that was really wierd that I was seeing burning, while the soil ph was so high too?
I hate to do it, but when I get the ffof mixed and ready, I am going to really flush it out really well until the ph is perfect, but man I can't help but think I am going to be flushing out all the goodies that cost extra! Damn it! Oh well, guess that what my veg nutes are for. Here I was thinking that I was getting ahead of the game by using ff, it's turning out to be more of a pain in the ass than the soil I got from the nursery for my last grow. Good learning exp. I guess!:jointsmile:

[veggii]

hey Kush I used peat pellets for first week for seedlings, by first week I mean first week. I did the paper towel sprout method and then put them in the peat pellets for 1 week then I put them in the FF/OC in a yogurt cup and only used water for week 2 as i was sure the FF/OC had enough nutes in it. I did'nt have much problems with that method will be using it again. I am not too familar with the LW mix that is a seedling starter mix. anyhow I'll be sticking to the process I used it worked pretty good. as for perlite everyone is using a 60%(soil) to 40%(perlite) I will be also I got the perlite today.
did you check out my picture albums they are hard for me too see I was looking for feedback on picture Quality on the Bible album..peace ..:jointsmile:
oh and I was also asking myself that same question how much lime are they putting in FF/OC

[8182KSKUSH]

Well, hopefully I am not jinxing myself.
Just wanted to post a follow up.
I got a little ancy the other night, I had been waiting for the babies to get to their 5th leaf sets before transplanting them but I said fuck it and went ahead and did it anyway.
By this point, some had started to get their 1st leaf sets turning brown and dying, and growth had slowed to a crawl. I had chalked this up to ph issues, but anyway.
As I re-potted them, I discovered that nearly ALL of them were root bound even at their very young age! I was shocked!
2 days later, there has been a drastic turn around. They all look lovely, and have started to vigorously grow again! They have greened up nicely! Of course the plants with the dead leaves still have them, but now they actually have spurred on new growth! I am happy, now I just wish I had started them in the pots that they are now in. I imagine they will likely need to be re-potted yet maybe by the end of the month, where they will likely finish. I am going to try to finish them in the 3 gallon pots, hopefully they will be big enough, I am trying to avoid the 5 gallon pots, if I can. They are now in the FFOF, what's funny, is that obviously they were still in there original fflw homes when transplanted, but once they went into the ffof, I checked the runoff, and....
H2O in with super-thrive, 6.6
H2O out...da da da daaaa, 6.7ish!
As you can imagine, I am very happy as compared to what it had been, even after multiple half assed flushing attempts with very low ph water.
So thanks for all of the advice folks!!!! I will be posting a grow log hopefully soon, this is a run of 10 MK and 10 AI, 1 GC, (crossing my fingers hoping for a female to clone and mum!) and 3 lowlife low rider mystery indicas, (they were free, so what the hell huh?) Once I get the room cleaned up and looking presentable, I will get some pics, post some detailed info and start the log. Hopefully you all will drop in and keep me from doing anything too catastrophic!:thumbsup:

P.S., I have started to consider switching them off the RO H2O, and using tap, I haven't decided yet though. If I don't and stay with the RO, considering the soil they are in FFOF, would you, and when would you start to supplement cal mag? My thoughts were for basic veg purposes, that they would likely be ok with what is already in the soil for 2-4 weeks, but I am wondering about micros?
So which would you do? Or would you just go with tap water, and forget about the cal mag. My tap is about 380ish ppm, about 8.5ish ph? (Yeah I know, not good, this is why I started using the RO).
I also have some Liquid Karma on hand, and have wondered what good or harm would be to add some very very light mix to my water as well? Any thoughts? Should I just leave well enough alone for now?
Thanks again!

[8182KSKUSH]

Hey all, hopefully you have subscribed to this if you posted here previously. As promised, I have started a grow log. The link is in my siggie, AI and MK Perpetual Grow, (Hopefully)! Stop on by!
Lots of pics! Check out some of the damage that was done early on and where they are at now!