Quote Originally Posted by rhizome
F'rnstance, both polls mentioned here automatically do not poll anyone who doesn't have, and answer during the day, a landline telephone.

How many folks under the age of 50 do you know who are home to answer their phone during a weekday?
What about people who have supplemented their land line with a cell phone. Cell phones are relatively cheap now and it's becoming common day occurence. I for one do not even own a land line. Just a cell phone. A great number of my friends also have gotten rid of their land lines in favor of a full time cell phone.

It seems that this is becoming increasingly popular. So while you ask that question in attempts to point out it's flaw, I present to you another factor that is not taken into account that levels the playing field of the question you poised.


Poll demographics are all screwed up.
Polls are just polls, but they are all we have to go on until election day.

Remember- it's in the interest of the media to make this seem as close as possible, so that more folks will watch the coverage, so that they can sell more advertising.
Well, seeing as how polls are just polls I doubt the media are conspiring together in order to make pollsters like Rasmussen and Gallup skew results in their favor. To sell advertising. That would be a hell of a lot of work and money. It doesn't make sense fiscally.

What they can do in order to sell more advertising is dramatize the election, but they have no control over any polls except the ones the media does themselves.

Take a look @ total #'s of individual donors to each campaign, volunteer hours logged, in-kind donations, registration #'s- it's not all that close.
The last I checked we voted by dropping a name in a ballet and not by the amount of volunteers or donations a member has.

First you try to pin down the polls P4B used, and then I bring up a second set of pollings and you mention how it's the electoral vote that counts; which is true.. but then I rebuttal by pointing out historically only 9.3% of presidents in history have won the electoral college without the popular vote. So in turn you say that all polls are screwed up.

It's hard to take your argument seriously with the back peddling.

I will agree with you on one thing though.... no one can really know how this election is going to go down. All we can do is guess by poll data that is available to us and the current events we read about/see on TV news networks.