Quote Originally Posted by Dream of the iris
Form and formless are intertwined. Getting lost in form and losing touch with the formless is our problem in the world now. If we were living like animals, then we still would not be conscious of this formless dimension. The point of existence is to rise up and become conscious of this dimension, or rather have this dimension become conscious of itself.

the formless demension? what do you speak, void, nothingness, nirvana?

When i pointed to animals as a reference, i meant to show that they live in unity with formlessness.

the animals themselves and their immediate families are the forms, living without any particular major social structure, they live as forms in formlessness.

Plantlife is just as good an example, however i doubt most people would be willing to understand that metaphore any better than they would the animal metaphore.


animals have made peace with what they are; as extensions of the earth itself anmials accept that they will eventually die and decompose and return to the earth. not to say they have given up life, no, not at all. in fact, they understand that by dying they are providing space and resources for NEW life.


Humans, however, fight this to the bitter end. "we" struggle to no end to "cure" death.
Where animals fight nature with nature, humans fight nature with synthetics and pharmecuticals.
Animals develope a natural immunity, or die trying.
Humans struggle to develope artificial immunity, and many still end up dying anyways.

Humans have no faith in nature and the life and death cycle.
Animals live on that very "faith" every day.

The animals of the world understand that nothing matters, while humans beat each other up and kill each other constantly over "meaningful" events that WE assign the meaning to.



let me put it this way: Humans are self proclaimed intelligent life as well as self proclaimed children of "god", a man-made idea!

Animals just LIVE their life day to day till they die, doing their best to survive, not for the sake of having any higher purpose in the universe, not for the sake of their self proclaimed intelligence, but because they have become one with the workings of the earth and accept their place as living dirt.



Which of the two sounds like a Peter Griffin calibur retard?



Basically, just do. dont think, just do. accept that your instincts are there to help you survive, and that all man made rules are simply man made and utterly meaningless.
Physics are law, law cannot be broken.*

in other words: If god/life/nature/physics didnt want us to rape, kill, steal, and fight, then it would be impossible for us to rape, steal, kill, or fight.



* now let me say this before someone goes and says "but we can make machines that let us fly and breathe under water".
you arent breaking the laws of physics just by using math. you cannot break the laws of physics by actually working WITH them to achieve a desired goal.

the laws of physics cannot be broken, but that doesnt mean you cant work with them using math to find ways to accomplish otherwise impossible goals. we do not fly without math and machines, but that doesnt mean math or machines are impossible to use.