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08-12-2008, 02:05 PM #1
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Seedsman white widow x 4 feminised, Wilma grow system
Hi guys just new to the site, firstly my friend has purchased a xl budbox tent 1.2m x 1.2m x 2m, 600w hps light system, carbon filter fan system and a 4 pot wilma flood and drain system. So far everything is setup perfect and the seeds have just been planted for germination in a unheated propagation tank (using nutrient soaked rockwool) which has been placed in warm cupboard above the water heating system.
The guy has done quite alot of backround research into this but wants to find out a further few questions.
Firstly once the seeds start to show signs of growth, when exactly should they be put under the hps light? he knows that this light is to strong for them at this stage but has heard that it is ok to use as long as its kept a good distance away, if anybody knows exactly how far it would be really helpful.
Your help will be much appreciated. Thanks :rastasmoke::thumbsup:BDDGrow Reviewed by BDDGrow on . Seedsman white widow x 4 feminised, Wilma grow system Hi guys just new to the site, firstly my friend has purchased a xl budbox tent 1.2m x 1.2m x 2m, 600w hps light system, carbon filter fan system and a 4 pot wilma flood and drain system. So far everything is setup perfect and the seeds have just been planted for germination in a unheated propagation tank (using nutrient soaked rockwool) which has been placed in warm cupboard above the water heating system. The guy has done quite alot of backround research into this but wants to find out a Rating: 5
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09-16-2008, 12:48 AM #2
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Seedsman white widow x 4 feminised, Wilma grow system
Yeh I am going to stick to 3 oz. you have along way to go plus if you get above that think of it as a bonus
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09-15-2008, 11:57 PM #3
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Seedsman white widow x 4 feminised, Wilma grow system
hey jerry thanks for the post, yea for the nxt grow im gonna get myself a cfl for veg, im growing in a 2m high tent so i hope they dont get too big lol all the plants are fimmed apart from the one in the bubbler pot so is your estmate of 3 ounces per plant stil the same? i can see the 6 main stems comming from al 4 fimmed plants and they look good and thick, more so on the 2 bigger plants.
Well i go to amsterdam on the 24th so gonna stop by the seedbank and see what they have on offer, i was thinkin on somethin like nyc diesel or cheese as these are my favourite to smoke :rastasmoke:
Thanks for the help dude :hippy:
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09-15-2008, 10:22 PM #4
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Seedsman white widow x 4 feminised, Wilma grow system
To start off nice plants you have going:thumbsup:
I read over your log and I will answer some of the questions you have about W/W. I am a veteran grower of it and is one of my favorites:jointsmile:
White Widow will triple in size minimum from the day you go to 12/12. Meaning if you have plants 12'' tall on the day you go to 12/12 they will top out at 48'' around week 5.
When starting from seed I recommend using fluorescents for seedlings then you will want to bump it up to your 250 Watt HPS for the first part of veg. Then bring out the 600 watt for the last part of veg and flowering.
The only reason for this is to save money and energy. Putting seedlings under a 600 watt is wasting allot of light and energy. I use a simple Home Depot shop light with 6500k t-12 bulbs for cloning and seedlings, plus keep a fan on them for stem strength.
Yield per W/W plant? I grow in soil but am able to get hydro yields from my babies. Since you did not LST or FIM you are only going to get 1 main cola and many sub cola's. But since you are doing hydro I bet you will get a minimum of 2 oz. per plant to a max of 4 ounces per plant. Since this is your first grow I would put it at around 3 ounces per plant average.
Also one more Important Point W/W takes 10 to 11 weeks of flowering time to come to completion. Do not be tempted to harvest earlier.
Now I have some questions.
Did you take any clones before going to 12/12? What are our future grow plans?
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08-12-2008, 03:07 PM #5
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Seedsman white widow x 4 feminised, Wilma grow system
Hello.
First good luck with your grow and welcome here.
Why did u go with a Wilma 4 in a 1.2*1.2m tent? You could easilly used a Wilma 8 or even a 10.
If you will only grow 4 plants then ScrOG or FIM them I would propose to get them bushy. Also with only one light you will need a very even canopy so put in some work to keep them evenly high later on.
You will want those plants to yeild a lot/plant if you only grow 4 and that will be hard with one light and 4 stretchy single stem plants lit by a single light. I have a bit of a problem with that here. I also grow WW, 5 of them and it is also my first grow. I FIMed one to see what happened and let 4 grow single stems and it is becoming a problem to light them evenly with one 600W HPS for me now.
As for light. You can start using the HPS already a few days after they are above ground and tbh you could use it from start as long as some care is taken.
If you want check in on my grow and download my Excel grow diary. It is updated now and then in posts and if u download the latest update I did to it you will have detailed day by day information from seed to start of 12/12 in it. I update those every week or so.
Anway, again, good luck and have fun.
Puffzter
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08-13-2008, 12:35 PM #6
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Seedsman white widow x 4 feminised, Wilma grow system
Nice setup you got going, the 4 pot wilma system came along as a special offer deal, depending on how good the first crop goes will be the decider if the guy is goin to go for the 8 pot.
yea alot of effort is going to be put into FIMing the plants as maximum yield is the aim
. About the hps light on the seedlings, should i keep the light about 4 or 5 feet away from the propagator tank?
thanks for the help, hope your crop goes well and hopefully ill get a few pics up soon. :rasta:
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09-15-2008, 08:28 PM #7
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Seedsman white widow x 4 feminised, Wilma grow system
the plants are 2 days into flowering now, been waitin nearly 2 weeks for the 250w light to come for the bubbler pot as it aint gettin as much light as it shud, the hydro store said there was a roblem with the delivery or somethin but it shud be here by the end of the week i hope. the two plants to the right of the 4 pod system are bigger and all plants are fimmed apart from the bubbler pot as it was transplanted late due to another long delivery.
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08-25-2008, 12:55 PM #8
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Seedsman white widow x 4 feminised, Wilma grow system
well heres the first pictures of the grow guys, the plants are about 16 days old now, just been transplanted to the wilma system and are growing very nice, had a bit of touble on the first day of moving them into the wilma system, a few of the leaves wer going yellow at the very edge, but once the light was moved further away everything seems to be going fine.



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08-25-2008, 02:09 PM #9
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Seedsman white widow x 4 feminised, Wilma grow system
Looking good man.
Don't be too careful with the light though they can take as much as u can get them as long as you don't overheat them. The more u blast them the earlier the less they will stretch and you do want to keep these babies low, believe me. My WWs grew 1.5-2 inches a day from week 5-7 so you can imagine the scare I got. It is finally slowing down now. The FIM'd one (only did it on one of five) is growing in a much more decent speed and have 6 really nice main stems full of flowers.
Anyway, just nuke them as much as u safelly can with light.
Good luck.
Puffzter
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08-27-2008, 06:32 AM #10
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Seedsman white widow x 4 feminised, Wilma grow system
Please post updates! :thumbsup:
:jointsmile: :jointsmile:
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