Proper nutrients help

[smokyj]

Im just wanting some input on proper nutes for A 12/12 set up. Should I focus on phosphate,or since there is only 12 hours of light should I focus on nitrogen to increase some bulk to the plant.My current set up does the job,but I know it can be much much better.Any help will be appreciated.

smokyj Reviewed by smokyj on 08-12-2008. Proper nutrients help Im just wanting some input on proper nutes for A 12/12 set up. Should I focus on phosphate,or since there is only 12 hours of light should I focus on nitrogen to increase some bulk to the plant.My current set up does the job,but I know it can be much much better.Any help will be appreciated. Rating: 5

[Rusty Trichome]

...My current set up does the job...

What set-up? (what are you using now?)
Low or no nitrogen for the flowering stage.

This info is readily available all over the web. Look-up any hydro shop, and you'll likely see what mostly everyone else in here uses, and what those nute ratio's are. The better quality nutes you use, the easier your job as a grower gets.
Would recommend Fox Farms nutes 3-part system, Canna Terra products, the General Hydroponics line... There's other more expensive nutes, and some that are cheaper, but I always stick with what has already been proven to work well for our purposes. (most expensive doesn't mean it's better)
If you decide to order some, make sure it's for your growing system. (soil, hydro...)

[stinkyattic]

Grow nutes until you see bud mass developed to about the size of a marble, then switch to bloom nutes.
If I were you, I'd focus on adding ventilation....

[smokyj]

Ventalation has been an issue,I added A fan just last night.My highs are the low 90's,lows are 75.So I need to cool it down.Thanks for the advice.Im starting A new grow shortly.I will start off with high nitrogen,then switch to A higher phosphate when I see marbles...lol...Thanks A lot.Also how often?Everyday or every third day for nutes??

[SimonMakus]

Hey Smoky, looks like you've got some work to do. A lot of work to do, actually. I swear this entire forum would be 3 sticky posts if every noob actually read the FAQs and guides. :jointsmile:

I'm wondering if you mean 12/12 from seed and that's why the confusion?

Since you probably won't do a search, you'll want a 3-1-2 ratio during vegetative growth. Then in flower switch to a 1-3-2 ratio. I agree with Stinky that you should wait until you see some budding before leaving 3-1-2, it seems to speed up the first appearance of flowers and reduce stretch.

In addition to RT's suggestions of FF, GH, and Canna... Botanicare's line is good, as is Earth Juice stuff.

"Adding a fan" is not ventilation.

Don't use days as a watering schedule. Water when the plants need it, properly, slowly, and evenly. That means some plants aren't going to need water when others do so you have to be very diligent. In my opinion watering techniques are VERY important to the overall health and success of our gardens.

Last thing... quit calling it "phosphate"!! Any phosphorus source will work, doesn't have to be an inorganic chemical compound.

[smokyj]

Like I said,Im still learning.I am new.Sorry if my inexperience bothers you.

[smokyj]

Any how....anyone that has usefull information,and thinks they can give me A tip with out being kind of rude feel free to do so.

[Rusty Trichome]

Any how....anyone that has usefull information,and thinks they can give me A tip with out being kind of rude feel free to do so.

Bummer that holding a newbies hand, and softly chanting grow techniques is not our style, but even newbies know where the search button is, and how to use it. However, it does look like you got some useful info.
Below, I even have a couple of tips for you, but sorry...I'm into rude today.

Tip 1: When posting a question, it's always best to include all the information about your grow as possible, as there are many factors that will influence an answer. I specifically asked you an additional question, and it went unanswered. I had good reason to ask, and it wasn't an unreasonable question. Whatever. Instead of being indignant about our responses, how about saying thank-you, answering all of our follow-up questions, and continue the learning process? It might someday take you all the way to harvest.

Tip2: We are not going to keep your grow alive and healthy. That's your job. You asked what nutes to use for a set-up that's on a 12/12 lighting schedule, and you got some good answers. You've ignored the answers offered, and insulted those that took the time to answer your question. It's really tough shit if you were offended by the responses, as some of us are insulted that newbies like yourself, expecting their grows to be handed to them on a silver platter, with a smile on our faces. For future reference, one should likely be careful insulting those that one is seeking help from. Punks don't usually get very much useful help.

Tip 3: Do some serious reading, if you are serious about growing. It is obvious by the content of your posts that you do not own the knowledge to slam any answer given, especially from those with obviously more knowledge than you.

If you need further clarification, then post another question, (or re-word the original one) and perhaps someone else will come along to help. I'll watch, bemused and entertained. :thumbsup:

[Mcnizzlebery]

That second picture looks like a fuzzy egg, with leaves. Its pretty cool :thumbsup: .

Doing nutes you can either do it every time you water with a low strength dose, or every few times with a more powerfull dose. I like to use the second method, because it seems like i can flush the soil a lot more this way.

Someone already said the npk ratios, general hydro seems to be a cheap effective nute line. And fox farm if you want organic.

[SimonMakus]

Bummer that holding a newbies hand, and softly chanting grow techniques is not our style, but even newbies know where the search button is, and how to use it. However, it does look like you got some useful info.
Below, I even have a couple of tips for you, but sorry...I'm into rude today.

Tip 1: When posting a question, it's always best to include all the information about your grow as possible, as there are many factors that will influence an answer. I specifically asked you an additional question, and it went unanswered. I had good reason to ask, and it wasn't an unreasonable question. Whatever. Instead of being indignant about our responses, how about saying thank-you, answering all of our follow-up questions, and continue the learning process? It might someday take you all the way to harvest.

Tip2: We are not going to keep your grow alive and healthy. That's your job. You asked what nutes to use for a set-up that's on a 12/12 lighting schedule, and you got some good answers. You've ignored the answers offered, and insulted those that took the time to answer your question. It's really tough shit if you were offended by the responses, as some of us are insulted that newbies like yourself, expecting their grows to be handed to them on a silver platter, with a smile on our faces. For future reference, one should likely be careful insulting those that one is seeking help from. Punks don't usually get very much useful help.

Tip 3: Do some serious reading, if you are serious about growing. It is obvious by the content of your posts that you do not own the knowledge to slam any answer given, especially from those with obviously more knowledge than you.

If you need further clarification, then post another question, (or re-word the original one) and perhaps someone else will come along to help. I'll watch, bemused and entertained. :thumbsup:

Extremely well-put, RT. :thumbsup:

Smokyj: It's not at all that your inexperience bothers me, it's your lack of trying. We're spending our time to help you, but you're doing nothing to help yourself. That's fine if you don't want my help, I'm out of here. If you're still doing this in six months (which I doubt) you'll look back and thank us.