there is no f-ing way that Karma exist....prove me wrong!!!

[theforthdrive]

great insight guys! Yeah I know it was a ironic coincidence.....but jason lee came to mind when it happened. Instant karma!! haha. My problem with the idea of karma is that my whole life has been nothing but bad luck. Im not sad or upset about it. I thought i was crazy for a long time until my friends and GF started to say that without bad luck i would have none at all. Everyone kepts telling me to write a book! So, if karma exists was i really really bad in a past life or going to be living large in the next. Why do I have horrible event after horrible event happen to me.... most of the time outa my control! I think i would rather believe its just shitty coincidence than some cosmic thing hating on me.

theforthdrive Reviewed by theforthdrive on 08-11-2008. there is no f-ing way that Karma exist....prove me wrong!!! today was one of the first time in months i was able to get out and go do something with my GF. We went to the Gravenstein Apple fair in Sebastopol, Ca. Really cool event with lots of great food and booths. I stopped by a local honey producer/bee keeper booth. We talked about his honey and his bees, a few of which were flying around. I commented on the bees...if they bothered people. "a few." we laughed, and i said how wonderful bees are and that i had never been stung in my life. I told Rating: 5

[higher4hockey]

that bee stung you, that bee is probably now dead. you were good to bees, said bee fucked you, said bee is now dead. works for me.

its all in how you look at it.

[trancefusion5]

jason lee came to mind when it happened.

Jason Lee as in glass artist extraordinaire? Or someone else?

[mmjnoob]

It seems that in the Western world, people seem to tie up the idea of karma with sin and judgment all meted out by some divine being or force. Some branches of Hinduism look at karma this way but overall they do not, nor does Buddhism. Karma translates as 'deed' or 'act.' It refers to the principle of cause and effect. As has been said, you reap what you sow. Your actions will determine how others will treat you. Your actions now will determine how your future plays out. The actual 'fruit' or 'result' of one's actions is actually called vipaka.

Cause and effect. If I were to develop lung cancer due to being a smoker:smoking is my karma(cause) and lung cancer is my vipaka(effect). It's not a punishment, it's a natural consequence.

We already have a couple supreme forces to mete out justice...God and Santa Claus. Why turn karma into another?

[theforthdrive]

The actual 'fruit' or 'result' of one's actions is actually called vipaka.

Cause and effect. If I were to develop lung cancer due to being a smoker:smoking is my karma(cause) and lung cancer is my vipaka(effect). It's not a punishment, it's a natural consequence.

so, if my life overall has been very unbalanced and it just happens to be negative... what is the cause and effect? Im not dilusional, there is no way my bad deeds in life equal the bad effects Ive had. furthermore, the love that Ive spread has never been repayed.... or balanced!


No this jason lee....in the earl show he talked about instant karma. He wins the lottery and is the hit by a drive the next moment! LOL!

Jason Lee (entertainer) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

karma cannot not exist:

gravity is karmatic. fire = burn = karma at work. blade+skin=cut and bleed is an equasion that owes it's success to karma.

the fact that i am posting on this board is a purely karmatic experience.

[allrollsin21]

hey forthdrive i am in no way telling you that you've lived the most wonderfully fortunate life, but c'mon.
"furthermore, the love that Ive spread has never been repayed.... or balanced!"

You mention friends and a girlfriend. You obviously have internet access, or the money to rent it, an education, and have discovered and use one of the worlds most significantly useful plants. I just think its all relative. If your waiting to win an award for your deeds, it may be a while. The gift in giving is having given, its being taught that the feeling of self worth you have after giving is meaningless, and its learning that nobody is entitled to anything more than anyone else. It sounds like people do in fact love you. you are blessed by mother earth. :thumbsup:

It sounds like you have had some real shitty things happen to you. You are able to sit here after the fact and question Karma and why these things have happened. In doing so you have separated yourself from these things, and that is beautiful and very FORTUNATE!! :jointsmile:

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

truly words of wisdom.
do not worry about the rules of engagement, those dont matter till you're dead and gone, just do your best to be a good person, that is all.

if the rules truly mattered, they would be unbreakable. therefore the only rules that matter are the laws od physics; what you can do with your body is always and forever within the rules of engagement. use that to help others.

[MelT]

Karma in the sense that most people think of it now, even in some forms of Buddhism, isn't what it originally meant. The source of the idea of Karma, the Hindu Vedas, show that Karma started out life as simply meaning that if you do bad things you will become a bad person, good things a good person. There were no allusions to past lives or carrying Karma forward with you, that came much later.

MelT

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

Karma in the sense that most people think of it now, even in some forms of Buddhism, isn't what it originally meant. The source of the idea of Karma, the Hindu Vedas, show that Karma started out life as simply meaning that if you do bad things you will become a bad person, good things a good person. There were no allusions to past lives or carrying Karma forward with you, that came much later.

MelT

Airplanes in the sense that most people think of it now isnt what airplanes were originally menat for.

what's your point?


it sounds as though you are insinuating that spirituality and/or mysticism hasnt evolved since it's original conception?