Schapelle Corby

[RobPA]

Steve man bottom line you arent helping the situation by being a dick and threatening lawsuits. I will always continue to support Ms. Corby because the way evidence was handled and the fact that Indonesian law is barberic and government corrupt. All the sectarian issues undermined political and economic stability of that country. There are so many cases of human rights abuses in Indonesia its sickening. Steve, stop giving her supporters a bad name man, you really arent making us look good.

[SteveV]

I start a thread and am instantly attacked. I respond, and then the smears and downright lies start.

It becomes pointless: because whatever I say is just ignored. The venimous campaign from "sarah louise" continues, with one false allegation after another (and why would someone post dozens of foul messages against the Corbys if they weren't driven by something?).

Yet no-one looks at her conduct and wonders why. I guess its because she is one of your own.

Sure: I feel strongly about someone suffering like that. That's what drives me. Why don't you ask yourselves why drives her?

[SteveV]

BTW: A debate isn't a debate when points made by one side are just ignored, and the other just seeks to open new channels of attack through totally false claims.

This woman is in jail on the basis of a shocking show trial. That is what the thread is about. They refused to test the evidence and then burned it. The so-called judge has never acquitted in over 500 drug cases.

These are the issues which are core: the issues for debate.

Ignored.

Why? Because they are facts. It is easier for those with dubious motives to steer well clear of them, and make foul accusations about the family. And then somehow I am presented as the bad guy, for shunning the tangents and trying to keep the thread on topic.

[sarah louise]

You know Steve, I think it's working... I'm starting to feel sorry for Schapelle.

Schapelle doesn't deserve to have conspiracy fanboys using her name to grandstand their stupidity.

I'm wondering Steve... why didn't you go ballistic when people called your post spam in other forums? You've been doing this for a few weeks now and I'm not the only person who has called it spam. But I am the only one you seem to have your knickers twisted about. Why keep coming back?

You're not exactly value adding to Schapelle's credibility.

[SnSstealth]

BTW: A debate isn't a debate when points made by one side are just ignored, and the other just seeks to open new channels of attack through totally false claims.

This woman is in jail on the basis of a shocking show trial. That is what the thread is about. They refused to test the evidence and then burned it. The so-called judge has never acquitted in over 500 drug cases.

These are the issues which are core: the issues for debate.

Ignored.

Why? Because they are facts. It is easier for those with dubious motives to steer well clear of them, and make foul accusations about the family. And then somehow I am presented as the bad guy, for shunning the tangents and trying to keep the thread on topic.

really?

I think you need some sort of medical help. You cannot see that this is some sort of vendetta? That you have a problem? Your pure hatred obviously drives you to this, but seriously: get help. Your mates here go in to autopilot and slag me off, but you really do need to look closely at your behaviour and its root cause.

wow...seems like you need some of your own advise.

BTW... (if it were a legit trial) how much time do you think you'd get in your or any country when trafficking 9 pounds into there country?

BTW2... youre actually lucky this thread wasnt shut down immediately. it seems the rules do not allow talk of smuggling...

More specific rules that appear elsewhere on the site and you might have missed
Other subjects we do NOT discuss here include:
-Other criminal activity. This includes but is not limited to: Smuggling, theft, violence, dealing, taking cannabis on public transportation.

...and with that I ask for this thread to be closed. it is a violation to have someone support a smuggler on this site.

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[SteveV]

Here we go again: yet another tangent, yet another steer away from the real issues. More smears (against me this time) rather than on-topic debate. Pathetic.


They refused to test the evidence. Why would a real court do that? If she really did it, hey, her prints and DNA might be on it!

And hey, the drugs might just have been from Aussie rather than an Indonesian plant!

So why not test them as Schapelle asked? Why not? They could have nailed her, surely!

But they KNEW her prints could not be there and the drugs were not imported.

And so they burned them instead.


The issues. Remember them?

When you can't argue with them, it is a lot easier to smear people, isn't it?

[daihashi]

Here we go again: yet another tangent, yet another steer away from the real issues. More smears (against me this time) rather than on-topic debate. Pathetic.


They refused to test the evidence. Why would a real court do that? If she really did it, hey, her prints and DNA might be on it!

And hey, the drugs might just have been from Aussie rather than an Indonesian plant!

So why not test them as Schapelle asked? Why not? They could have nailed her, surely!

But they KNEW her prints could not be there and the drugs were not imported.

And so they burned them instead.


The issues. Remember them?

When you can't argue with them, it is a lot easier to smear people, isn't it?

If this case is as corrupt as you say then you should think about this logically.

It is VERY VERY easy to transfer fingerprints, and with that transfer comes skin oil which would have her DNA on it. I suspect even if they did test it you would call them out on tampering with evidence or something.

Everyone here is tired of listening to your ranting.

[SnSstealth]

Here we go again: yet another tangent, yet another steer away from the real issues. More smears (against me this time) rather than on-topic debate. Pathetic.


They refused to test the evidence. Why would a real court do that? If she really did it, hey, her prints and DNA might be on it!

And hey, the drugs might just have been from Aussie rather than an Indonesian plant!

So why not test them as Schapelle asked? Why not? They could have nailed her, surely!

But they KNEW her prints could not be there and the drugs were not imported.

And so they burned them instead.


The issues. Remember them?

When you can't argue with them, it is a lot easier to smear people, isn't it?

ok on the issue of "the drugs might just have been from Aussie rather than an Indonesian plant!"

I, right now, have strains from afganistan, north america and some equatorial varieties ALL in the same spot growing. And for you to some reason think ANYONE would be able to detect the nationality of origin by the plant, strain, or anything else for that matter is ridiculous.

theres an issue i await your response:thumbsup:

[SteveV]

I try to discuss ISSUES (again): yet again I am accused - this time of "ranting". Perhaps you should read the words I actually input and put your prejudice away.


Easy to transfer fingerprints? You've been watching too many James Bond movies. It isn't easy at all, and the probability of that regime having the ability to do it is almost zero.


"And for you to some reason think ANYONE would be able to detect the nationality of origin by the plant, strain, or anything else for that matter is ridiculous. "

You are displaying a serious lack of knowledge again. Forensic testing for origin is well established. It is business as usual for many labs.

Every territory has a unique blend of flora and pollen. It is almost impossible to extract this from a consignment. This would be the first and easiest approach to determine whether the drugs were from Indonesia or Aussie.


Again: if they thought she did it, they would have had these basic tests performed. Regardless of Schapelle asking for the tests, if they really thought she did it, THEY would have asked for the test! No: they would have just done the tests regardless and presented the evidence to nail her.

They KNEW the drugs were from Indoensia, just as they knew there was none of her DNA or fingerprints on them.

[SnSstealth]

ive seen two guys on a tv show in a work shop defeat three different fingerprint technologies with very simple tools ie. tape used to fool an electronic scanning door lock. no lames bond, all very practical. you dont think that this ultra attacking government couldnt come up with something? (and no i dont believe everything i see on tv, so no need to go there)

ill give you the pollen thing as I had not thought of that. point steveV

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