Please help first grow, - with pictures

[mattt1]

Hi, first post and first grow lol,

I am growing two skunk 1 plants in a area around 3 feet by 8 feet, with 4 foot flourescent lights, the temperature stays around 80 degrees,

the plants are around 3 week old and were growing lovely untill the leaves suddenly started to droop, the soil i am using holds water quite alot, so i saturate the plants and then let the soil dry for 3 days again before watering, on the third day i left the plant without watering the leaves started to droop so i watered, and its bein hours and still the leaves havent perked up yet.

what could be the cause of this??

please help and thanks in advance

Matt.

mattt1 Reviewed by mattt1 on 08-08-2008. Please help first grow, - with pictures Hi, first post and first grow lol, I am growing two skunk 1 plants in a area around 3 feet by 8 feet, with 4 foot flourescent lights, the temperature stays around 80 degrees, the plants are around 3 week old and were growing lovely untill the leaves suddenly started to droop, the soil i am using holds water quite alot, so i saturate the plants and then let the soil dry for 3 days again before watering, on the third day i left the plant without watering the leaves started to droop so i Rating: 5

[Rusty Trichome]

Would help if you filled out the troubleshooting guide, and if you could snap a couple of clear shots of the base of the plants, (including the soil) and one from the top looking down, that would be helpful, too.

Without any other info, looks like underwatering, but if no drainage, could possibly be low oxygen in the soil...?

[mattt1]

H=Answer if you grow hydro or aero
C=Answer if you grow coco
S=Answer if you grow traditional soil
L=Answer if you grow soilless other than coco (Promix, Hyponex, SunshineMix)
R=Answer if you grow in RockWool
T=Answer if you grow in HydroTon
D=Answer if you run any type of automatic drip system, including into soil or soilless
E= EVERYONE needs to answer lol!


E-indoor or outdoor - Indoor
E-soil, soilless, coco, aero, or hydroponic - Soil
E-specific medium - 'Sainsburys multi-purpose compost' lol
CSL-Soil type/brand - seems to be very moist
SCL-Anything you have added to the soil - bio-bizz, BIO GROW 8.0-2.0-6.0
SCLR-Soil or slab runoff pH - around 7.0
E-Water source - tap water
E-Source water pH - approx 7
HRT-Source water EC (if hydro)
E-Age of plant - 4 week, 1 day
E-Type of fertilizer - on the packet of the soil, it says it contains fertilizers.
E-Rate of application (if hydro, this is your PPM number, preferably after each component is added)
E-Lighting source and distance from plant - 4, 4 foot 30w flourescents, white bulbs
E-Air temperature (both day and night if you are running a dark period) - Consistantly around 80 degrees
E-Air % Relative humidity - 40-50%
E-Lighting schedule - 20 hours light - 4 hours dark
E-Type of ventilation your room has - Placed a rotating fan in the grow space
TR-Did you pre-soak your media in pH corrected solution? - no

[Rusty Trichome]

Attempting to grow in compost is likely the problem. You need a potting soil.
Transplant asap, and make sure soil has perlite.

[mattt1]

Thanks Rusty Trichome, could you please advise me on how to transplant because i imagine that the compost will be hard to remove from the roots of the plant?
Cheers, Matt

[rastaman79]

1st off,get yourself a bag of Perlite! Available from any garden centre,mix it with your new soil about 40% Perlite.Then take your plant,stem between your fingers and turn upside down,gently tap out the plant,then gently remove all compost that DOESN`T have roots in it,bit of your new mix in the pot to bring the plant up to height(you can bury a bit of your stem)then back fill and firm-jobs a good ùn.Just a few tips.... that looks like over watering to me,its better to water little and often than soaking and waiting 3/4 days to dry out,also dont use too big a pot as your plants wont be able to use up the water and will get oxygen starved and root rot-your roots need air.
Peace RM.

[mattt1]

ok, thanks for the help its appriechated.
the plants seem to really have perked back up today, i placed some paper towels underneaf the pots to soak up water from the soil through the holes in the bottom of the pots, so would you still reccomend transplanting to a potting soil or maybe jus cool out on the watering and improve drainage??
Thanks, Matt.

[Rusty Trichome]

Compost is used to ammend soil in your ourdoors garden. Potting soil is for...pots.
Compost will lower ph, does not drain well, and it just doesn't work as a stand-alone potting mix. Wouldn't matter how much perlite you add, it's not for cannabis. Contains stuff like weed seeds, roadkill, fungus gnat eggs, doesn't it?
As with all things in life, use the right tool for the job. It usually makes your life easier. Get some potting soil. :thumbsup:

[GreenLeaf420]

You have some major stretch going their... If you are serious about wanting to grow get a Decent Lamp maybe a T5 or something or substance... Transplant just get a bag of Miracle Grow is better then what you have going on their because you are not going w/ nutes probably (Just guessing) When you transplant pop it out the pot and loose what ever Shit you can then just drop in a new POT and add MG soil... Forget the Perlite and all crazy soils for the situation you are in now!!! Unless you want to make a investment by starting to use NUTES investing in a lamp ( Lots of Reading and studying) what are you going to use for the light's out periods? I see the plant in front of a window there? You should do some reading and rethink your situation... IMO Well Good Luck GL1

[Rusty Trichome]

I see the plant in front of a window there? You should do some reading and rethink your situation... IMO Well Good Luck GL1

Hopefully it was just for the pix. The other shots look like a closet or box grow.
But yeah...keep the lights as close as possible. (2" or less for fluoro, if temps are ok)