Quote Originally Posted by bobthenuker
I think it's already been hit a couple of times but still running, but the point remains the same. Now that Russia has been given an excuse to attack, I fear that they will not stop. And the close ties between Georgia and the west amount to squat, because personally I don't think that America or the West will intervene militarily, seeing as how the Russians don't aim to stop. I hope I get proven wrong, but now that Russia is the one of the world's largest oil producer, if not the most (don't quote me on that, not too sure myself), they're quickly gaining power fast. And thanks man for the kind words, somehow though, I think this could have all been avoided :wtf:... You gotta understand though, from the point of view of a common Georgian living in Georgia, a good relationship between Georgia and Russia is much more important than that of Georgia and the west. Russia has too much influence in that area to be ignored, and it was a very delicate relationship hanging on by a thread after the cold war. Even though Georgia is rich in culture, most Georgians are simple people, that raise crops and drink excessively and whatnot. Most of them would not care if their country was in NATO or whatever. It's a beautiful peaceful land...but not anymore. It'll be interesting to see what'll it be like after all this will blow over.


If we decide to help the georgians militarily, I would probably be the first to enlist(not joking in the least). Did you see the big rally on Fox news today? Thousands of Georgians showed up to rally for freedom, stop of the fighting etc etc, they even had american flags flying everywhere and a english translator.. But you are right, stepping back for a moment and looking at the situation, If georgia wasent ready for the Russians counterattack, they should have never messed with the breakaway Ossetia in the first place. Where I live in PHilly there is an EXTREMELY large russian/georgian population. I am going to take some pics later but you should see some of the things the Georgians are putting on there yards, decorating them with flags, there was a rally earlier today and the cops had to come stop the violence because a group of russians attacked GEorgian protestors. This is a really tough situation for me because I am a libertarian and believe strongly in a non-interventionalist foreign policy, but I believe more that we need to help the people who help us, they helped us in Iraq, even though it was only 2000 Soldiers its the principal that they stood by us so I fully believe that if Russia continues and Invades Georgia and tries to out its democracy that the PEOPLE of Georgia voted for, we should help them Militarily. However with the news posted above this post about us sending more to the persian gulf, its looking more and more of an unrealistic situation in terms of us helping Georgia militarily. Once again I wish your family and your people the best bob. And your right 1 of the pipelines has been hit but it was not the BP pipeline(the one where we get a lot of our oil from, I even have a BP credit card, lol).