Shov's Christmas Sativas 2008

[Shovelhandle]

Just repotted yesterday. Plants seem to have no stress so far. I've never had any transplant problems but these didn't release from the old pots all that well. I lightly watered them in with a little Superthrive. I'll give them a nute feeding later tonight.

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[Puffzter]

Hey Shov.
Are those plants really 5 weeks old?
They look healthy and all but very small for that age aren't they?
Mine looked like this after 5 weeks and I did take clones from all of them.
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Maybe the coco and the 600W HPS I used in veg do you think they grew slower than normally in veg?

I hope you understand I mean no offence, I just wanna understand what different techniques and strains bring to the table.

Keep up the good work and your super nice logs m8.

Pufzter

[Shovelhandle]

I agree, they are not as mature as my last two grows. I did try using just the T-5s up until yesterday. Most everything else, exept the seeds was the same. I kind of doubt that it was all because of the 216 watts of light (instead of 600-700 watts) because the seedlings did not sprout or flourish as well as any grows I can remember. Anyway, I hope with adding the 400 W MH and the transpanting into large pots that they will take off, eh? And I was worrying about the Neville's Haze getting too big during veg. Huh. :wtf:

[Shovelhandle]

Here's the last grow of Bubblegum hybrid fems.

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Yup, Much, Much nicer. I think the extra light should pick them. Now, these next plants are afghani at the same period that were also under just florescent lights. Same for the next photo of some Bubblegum, also under just the florescents. So, compared to this, the present grow is doing well. It's in the lighting then. Ya think?

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[Puffzter]

I think so yes.
I have a good exemple here actually.
I have clones from those plants that I linked. They are in soon in week 6 since they started vegetative growth and even though they had a head start (being rooted clones instead of sprouting seeds) they are about half the size from what the seed plants vegged under HPS were after 5 weeks.

Exact same genetic, same medium, same nutes different lights.
The first time I vegged with 600W HPS (flower spectrum)
Second time 125W cfl (veg spectrum)

So in my case I woul loose at least 2 weeks in veg and even then the CFL plants would have been less compact and more stretchy.
I would gain on the electricity though but no even enough to cover 3-4 grams of nice sinsemilla. I think I gained more than that for sure with the HPS.

You seem to have the same experience, right?

Puffzter

[Shovelhandle]

It seems so. I use 400 HPS flower and 400 MH conversion for veg. I used 216 watts (4 x 4') of T-5s for sidelighting with the correct spectum tubes for grow and flower. When they filled the 1 sq meter area I added two 42 watt CFLs to the other side. I got 500gm of bud out of the 1 meter².
The AKs are larger than the haze, but they will finish at least a month after the AKs.

[killa12345]

man the grow is looking beautiful.......looks like christmas will be nice for u too......i love the mop buckets.....im using them with the haze im growing but starting to have stability issues now that the plants are around 7'.

[Shovelhandle]

Thanks, the haze are in 3 gallon pails the AKs, except the runt are in 5 gallon pails. The Haze will get moved into at leat 5 gallon eventually.

Tanke care, Bub!

[Mr.GoodMorning02]

just commenting on some earlier posts. those ak's sure do seem small but with only the t5s i wouldn't expect them to be all that big anyway. just because i've been using a 400wmh for veg, and the extra light really pays off in size. my tallest is 18inch and they're all around 37 days old give or take. on an 18/6

and yeah shov, idk why but my one ww and 2 aks are growing 10 leaflets. they look crazy big lol. those cuttings did look superb btw, i hope they produce well. dont think i myself will be cloning since we have 30+ girls now, most likely 20 - males.

so those are only under the 400mh now? or are the t5s and cfls still playing a role? keep up the good work, i'll be back soon


morning

[Shovelhandle]

yep, it was an experiment. I now believe that the 400 MH is needed for max growth after the first week or two. Right now I have the T-5s for side lighting and the 400 MH about 18" from the canopy. Yes, the cuttings are still looking fine (well, one is a little less fine, but it only has a one inch stem.)
The 400W really has made a rapid improvement in growth rate!

Thanks,
Shol