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08-07-2008, 11:33 AM #21
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Obama Removes American Flag from Campaign Plane
Well Rebgirl beat me to it so I had to edit in this rider.
Well I guess this is what he means by "Change we can believe in."
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Oh yeah, well count how many time Obama says "um" or "ahh" when he gives a speech. Every other word out of his mouth is um ah um ah. I don't know why people find that so charming. Stumbling on words, so charismatic and inspiring. I'm not saying one should like someone or not based on this but I am so tired of hearing about how charismatic he is. I think the media says this because he is their little darling.
Originally Posted by 40oz
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08-07-2008, 11:39 AM #22
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Obama Removes American Flag from Campaign Plane
My point EXACTLY! I could give a rats if he had the flag on his plane OR wears a flag pin, which by the way he does ALL THE TIME now for some odd reason, but replacing the flag of our country with a "like" banner of his own is insulting for a presidential candidate. Kind of shows the HE comes before country in my eyes. Although, what else should a person expect from this egomaniac?
Originally Posted by 40oz
Have a good one!:s4:
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08-07-2008, 03:37 PM #23
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Obama Removes American Flag from Campaign Plane
Yeah, I'd be wary of geeks bearing gifts. Osama can no more change the marijuana laws, than he could stick with one position in his campaign without checking the polls first. The food and drug administration has a few guidelines for 'new' drugs under their control, which is where it would end-up. Then there's the AMA...
Originally Posted by memoryburner
Early-on, when individual states were passing legislation with regards to medical use of cannabis, the feds had a backlash reaction (an "I don't fucking think so" attitude) to the states' laws, with more attention to enforcement and prosecution. Would look for the same type of backlash from those ultra-conservative states that don't like any progressive 'morals' being shoved down their throats by the feds.
With the feds, you'd have to convince the Surgeon General to accept the medical use of cannabis before anything meaningful could be accompolished on the federal end of it. As it's his medical legasy on the line, not likely to jump into it without going thru the proper testing stages.
Years of testing things like strain stabilization, acceptable delivery systems, (bongs vs. vaporizers vs. tinctures vs. Marinol...) developing THC and Delta 9 inhibitors, (to wean 'addicts' off the nasty stuff) dosage requirements for size/age/symptoms of the user, short and long-term effects...and finally,where/who could grow it to the governments standards.
Then there's the wording of the disclaimer..."warning...may cause munchies or a...um...what else does it do...?"
The only time cannabis comes into play when I vote, is in the state/local elections. They are, at this time, the ones that determine your local cannabis enforcement/acceptance. Other than that, I vote in the nationals for the candidate that represents the direction I think is best for our country.
Altho I'm grateful that a few states have med. cannabis laws, the same 'false hope' goes for those national organizations that promise that if you send them $20.00 per month, they'll change Washington D.C.'s stranglehold on the misrepresentations of cannabis and it's users. Been thirty years since we first started donating to that cause...and only a handfull of states have med. cannabis laws...? Not a very effective or impressive track record.
After 911, he refused to wear the pin, citing that it doesn't represent patriotism, because, of course he's patriotic... (sorry, I just threw-up in my mouth)
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Anyway, now his handlers slap the pin on as if it attones for his past indiscressions and sins against his own society. A rosary-flag, of sorts, blessed by the messiah builder, Rev. Wright, himself. (similarly blessed flagpins available (for a $250.00 or more donation) at ReperationistAndFalseMessiahOfHope.com)
Am I angry, as someone has so judgementally put it...? No, it's more like an incredulous disdain. But as the date nears, I do check my facts closer, and I love to call-out bullshit factless posts. The statements are so easy to check, I don't even feel it's an imposition challenging those that are too lazy to have an original thought and/or common sense. :jointsmile:
Here's two flags.
The flag from germany (circa 1920's) was red and white. Then, that great and partiotic german, Adolph Hitler made a couple of changes...well...you get the idea.
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08-07-2008, 08:27 PM #24
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Obama Removes American Flag from Campaign Plane
Originally Posted by FakeBoobsRule
Well he's no JFK, but he's close. My point was mostly that when you look at both Candidates side by side, McCain makes Obama look like a hero and he makes himself look like a stubborn old man who has trouble keeping his composure.
I agree that the media loves Obama though....he's marketable. You don't see McCain shirts for sale at retail stores, do you?
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08-07-2008, 08:57 PM #25
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Obama Removes American Flag from Campaign Plane
Not really. JFK proved his military worth and love for country and soldier with his actions during WW2.....Obama, the surge won't work. JFK stood up to the U.S.S.R. during the Cuban Missile Crisis....Obama wants to negotiate without any preconditions with people regarded as a terrorists best friend.
Originally Posted by 40oz
What actually has Obama done to warrent such a level of respect as JFK?
Have a good one!:s4:
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08-07-2008, 09:44 PM #26
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Obama Removes American Flag from Campaign Plane
Well nothing yet, he's not even president. However, the parallels between this presidential race and the presidential race between JFK and Nixon are hard to ignore. In my opinion.
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
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08-07-2008, 10:32 PM #27
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Obama Removes American Flag from Campaign Plane
McCain doesn't have an American flag on his plane either.

http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/...ccainplane.jpg
So really this is just a hateorade issue.
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08-07-2008, 10:54 PM #28
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Obama Removes American Flag from Campaign Plane
Ok, I found out he indeed does have a small American flag painted right next to "peace, prosperity..." but now we can complain, why does McCain think so little of the USA? :thumbsup:
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08-13-2008, 03:24 AM #29
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Obama Removes American Flag from Campaign Plane
All this is a bunch of hoopla!
Priorites people! Minor things like this only distract us from the issues. This is happening on both sides of the fence too.
I'm a registered Republican and even I think this flag shit is exactly that, shit. I don't care what my president is wearing, what race he/she is, what sex he/she is, where they vacation, shop, dine, nor do I give a damn about what he's flying in (Unless your Al Gore, then I care because it only proves what a hippacrit he is politicy).
Issues. THAT is what is important.
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08-13-2008, 03:40 AM #30
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Obama Removes American Flag from Campaign Plane
i just want to find some weed, the rest of the USA's problems can take a back seat. Cause I am at the wheel and I'm getting distracted..
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