Convo with a cop.

[psychocat]

I recently had to call the old bill because my neighbour (girl) came to ask for shelter from her retarded bf who had decided to use her as a punchbag.
I would've prefered to have "spoken" to him myself but she didn't want that , she just wanted me to call the law.
When they arrived one of the cops interviewed her and I started a conversation with his female co-worker. It was interesting to hear her take on the current cannabis laws and the goverments attitude to the research done into medical use.
I didn't feel the need to be cagey or to lie and I explained my history and experiences of different drugs , I could see that she was interested in both sides of the argument and had an open mind.
When they were done I thanked them for thier time and they went on thier way.
I have to say that even though the circumstances that brought about the meeting were pretty dire , I did enjoy talking with an agent of the law with the ability to think for themselves.


BTW
After all that my stupid neighbour forgave her retarded OH and took him back.:wtf::wtf::wtf:

psychocat Reviewed by psychocat on 08-05-2008. Convo with a cop. I recently had to call the old bill because my neighbour (girl) came to ask for shelter from her retarded bf who had decided to use her as a punchbag. I would've prefered to have "spoken" :D to him myself but she didn't want that , she just wanted me to call the law. When they arrived one of the cops interviewed her and I started a conversation with his female co-worker. It was interesting to hear her take on the current cannabis laws and the goverments attitude to the research done into Rating: 5

[Sir Bliss]

Very nice.

But I'm curious...how did you guys get on the topic of cannabis?

[Weedhound]

And I'd love to know what a leo's personal take on all of it as well......

[psychocat]

Very nice.

But I'm curious...how did you guys get on the topic of cannabis?

I asked for her thoughts on the recent news that the labour party was going to reclassify ganja.

I found we agreed on a lot.
For some people cannabis can have a negative effect , which really applies to all drugs including booze.
For those who can benefit from medicinal use it should be researched properly and the goverment should listen to expert information instead of public opinion.
For those who wish to use it as a recreational drug it should be avaiable in licensed premises for over 18s and street dealers should be prosecuted more harshly.

I am the most open and honest toker you could wish to meet , I don't ever hide it and I couldn't give a flying fuck what anyone thinks of me.
If I hide what I think or what I do then it's like I have something to be ashamed of and I never feel shame.

[daihashi]

You'll never see me talking to the popo's about cannabis. No matter how cool I think they are. They would have to be a childhood friend or relative.

You never know when it's going to come back and bite you in the butt. Then again I live in a not so cannabis friendly city. So my paranoia's may be unwarranted wherever you are.

:hippy:

[daihashi]

If I hide what I think or what I do then it's like I have something to be ashamed of and I never feel shame.

I don't consider it hiding. I consider it protecting yourself. Which there is no shame in ensuring that police have no reason to suspect you of anything.

Safety above all else.. that includes making sure you stay out of jail :jointsmile:

[psychocat]

Prison doesn't scare me.
Apart from the fact that we have very lenient sentences in the UK I have spent time behind bars for my beliefs and have no regrets.
I have no problem talking to anyone and can judge wether it is prudent to continue with a conversation.
Since cannabis is still illegal in the UK it could be a problem to admit you toke to a copper but I really don't care .
As long as they only ever find enough for percy (personal use) I will only ever face light sentences.

If you don't take a stand and converse with people in an adult and intelligent way then the stoner stereotype will continue to be what people believe.

Lazy ... I think not , I have worked since I was 14 when I set up my first business as a window cleaner (ladder and a bucket needed) . I have to admit due to lack of funds my ladder was "borrowed" from a nearby building site.

Good for nothing ... Once more I have to say WRONG ! I have many skills built up over 30 + years of working.

Criminal .... Okay so I have broken a few laws.

We can't win hearts and minds if we never fight for our cause.

[TurnyBright]

When I was arrested for possession I spent the entirety of the time trying to have an actual discussion with the officer.

In the end, it came down to this:

Her: "So, you must be really philosophical."
Me: "Oh, yes, I feel that there is no reality but that of philosophy."
Her: "Wow... We're different. I see everything in black and white. I'm not that smart, if I were I sure wouldn't be working here."


I didn't say it, but this signaled to me a serious problem in US law enforcement. Why did this cop feel like her job shouldn't require philosophical thought, or thought in general?

See this thread I started on officer.com

Morality - Police Forums & Law Enforcement Forums @ Officer.com

[daihashi]

Prison doesn't scare me.

Well I guess that's good but that wasn't really the point I was trying to make. I was saying if you can do something as small as.. oh let's say not say anything to people you don't know.. then you drastically reduce the chance or possibility that you may get caught and go to jail.

In that regard there is no shame in simply keeping your trap shut. There are certain times and places for Activism.

Apart from the fact that we have very lenient sentences in the UK I have spent time behind bars for my beliefs and have no regrets.
I have no problem talking to anyone and can judge wether it is prudent to continue with a conversation.
Since cannabis is still illegal in the UK it could be a problem to admit you toke to a copper but I really don't care .

This seems like a defeatest attitude and I hope no one here decides to follow your foot steps after reading your post. I sincerely commend you for being a proud toker and regret free from the consequences of illegal activity, but I can't say I am impressed with the fact that you've been caught. I'm sure there were circumstances surrounding the situation that may have worsened your case but if this were me I would try to avoid going back.

Life outside of jail/prison is undoubtedly better. You get freedoms, money, a job, a place to live... etc etc. Why risk all that by flapping your lips to a copper, judge or even a stranger. All the other person has to do is open their mouth about you to someone else and then it can start a chain reaction.

I believe in supporting cannabis but only amongst people whom I've gotten to know a bit and whom I think I can have a sincere open debate about it. A cop would be the last person on my list to try to debate this with. Even if that cop is cool it doesn't mean that another cop might find out somehow and start keeping an eye on you. This is only really an issue if you're growing. They tend to not bother small fry smokers who are toking in their own home.

As long as they only ever find enough for percy (personal use) I will only ever face light sentences.

Why face sentences at all? Keeping your mouth shut surprisingly reduces a lot of the ability for the courts to prosecute you... even if you do get caught, if you don't talk.. you will walk.

If you don't take a stand and converse with people in an adult and intelligent way then the stoner stereotype will continue to be what people believe.

I agree, but there is an old saying/cliche "Choose your fights wisely". What I mean by this is that yes.. you do need to take a stand and converse with people in an intelligent matter. At the same time you need to protect your own interests and determine if you feel you can turn the person you're debating with to become sympathetic for our cause.

I rarely discuss cannabis with people who are staunchly conservative.

Lazy ... I think not , I have worked since I was 14 when I set up my first business as a window cleaner (ladder and a bucket needed) . I have to admit due to lack of funds my ladder was "borrowed" from a nearby building site.

Good for nothing ... Once more I have to say WRONG ! I have many skills built up over 30 + years of working.

Who called you lazy? I'm sure you bust your ass making money like many other people on this board. :thumbsup:
Criminal .... Okay so I have broken a few laws.

We can't win hearts and minds if we never fight for our cause.

We cant win hearts and minds if we're behind bars :hippy:


ps: I understand where you're coming from. I just hate to see any of my favorite canna dot com people leave themselves vulnerable.

[TurnyBright]

I rarely discuss cannabis with people who are staunchly conservative.

What's the point of discussion if you're only doing it with people who agree with you?