Defending Cannabis

[Coelho]

Well... one of the hardest things in this world is to make someone change its own views... nobody, NOBODY likes to be proven wrong, and most people will do anything to assure themselves that they are right and you (or anybody else) is wrong... so, most of time trying to make someone change its views is just a waste of time.
Just think this way: how hard would be to someone convince you that youre wrong about something you think youre right?

[JaySin]

I would listen to them and if they were in fact correct, then I would willingly accept that I was wrong. I'd rather be smart than ignorant. It's just too bad all people aren't like that.

[GreenDestiny]

I love to be proven wrong on anything. It's one of the best forms of education for me.

The only time I get cornered when talking about pro-cannabis issues is: in the end it is still illegal and that I should avoid it so that I don't get into trouble with the law and have my life ruined by our wonderful legal system. Or to lose a great job because I might test positive. Or, rely on all other natural plants and stuff for medicine that are still legal.

Those are the only arguments I find hard to win. Actually it's not an argument, it's just mutual agreement of what the current legal status is. I don't live in a medical state so I'm SOL. Until Tennessee adopts a medical plan, or if I move to a state that already has one, it seems I have to obey the laws and find other things that will work (which are too weak or just placebos).

To use what we know is the best natural medicine we must break federal law, and state law where it still exists. If we're willing to cross the line into criminal activities, what's to stop us from doing anything else that is illegal to benefit our health? Using weed makes us a potential threat to the security of our nation. We're so lucky to have a government that wants to turn us into criminals instead of peaceful law-abiding natural medicine practitioners.... all at the tax payer's expense.

And if you're a tax payer, you're helping THEM criminalize us all. How funny that the law makes us hypocrites as well. Rock on!

[Euphoric7]

^It's been said, but attack from an angle they can personally connect to.

[HazyVille]

Man ive been having the same convo. with my mom ever since she found out I smoke. I always try and point out the good things and always compare it to worse things....I often ask " Well would you rather me drink, shoot up, snort, or smoke trees?" and she gives me the same answer everytime, " I wouldnt have you do either, but...." then she just murmers off some words and doesnt say much after that. In our last convo about 2 nights ago I told my mom how much I smoke daily and she was shocked...she told me i was an addict, then I quickly disproved her, then she told me i couldnt stop cold turkey....told her I could, but im not going to becuase....

1. No trees = pain in the legs and wrist.
2. I get extremely jittery at work and I HATE IT, cant focus straight
3. I love it to much to stop.

after stating facts and what not She told me I should cut back...Ive been thinkin about doing it for the longest time now, since my highs are mostly mellow now a days compared to my virgin lung days....but thats another story, point is once a day after is what im sticking to.


My Mom and I are extremely open about alot of things, She and I both have RA, rheumatoid arthritis for those who dont know, and I tell her everytime we have one of these " Why do you smoke so much" convos. that ever since I started smoking the pain in my knees as well as my wrist is non existant ( it hasnt come back since mid Nov.) I always suggest to her that she should try it, She told me that she wouldnt smoke it, I told her Id bake a cake for her yet she still doesnt want to....yet!! hazza. In the end though my mom says I still view your "trees" as a drug, I just simply nod my head and say I know, but your views and mines are diff. and she says yea, true but im still your mom lol.

:BTW, My mom is the only person in the world who can tell me to stop smoking, if she were to say :insert name here: stop, I would, I have nothing but respect for my mom plus ima mommas boy lol.:

But I def. understand were your coming from, I have a super duper tree loving i know everything, becuase i took botany in highschool but have no degree hortaculturalist, at work and like the rest of us here Im extremely passionate about my subject, but no matter how much I try and cram into our 10 min. convo's, I feel like throwing stuff her way after the first 8min., She always thinks shes right, at one point i just said F8CK your High School diploma Im the real hortaculturalist here and walked out the room lol, what proceeded after words is a work related event I shall not discuss here. I actually do work with alot of people who support Med. Marj and I also know plenty of people that come into the city on med. marj related business, so its always cool to talk and actually learn more, I live in the City of Hempfest everyone is proactive about it, if your not YOU WILL BE.

I agree with Daihashi, always compare the trees to worser things, not just to make them look better but because its the truth...lol my moms never argued with the charts, and yea man the ignaramuses dont need to be convinced about anything there just idiots who will die off with the rest of the dinosaurs living in the past, focus on the national side like metal said, forget the dinos lol. Im out.

[Unknownfigure]

It mostly has to do with the way the typical, Government obeying American was brought up. The way our culture is is pretty much laying down everything we might like, but following based on what our parents say. We find something we enjoy, and we are given every opportunity to continue to seek to enjoy it. We think up a great idea, and we are usually always fully supported. But when confronted with something socially taboo, we are shunned away from it at all costs. Most of us come from those typical Americans, who come from one-sided thinking, very close-minded people. These people are those who grew up in a social enviroment that has it's reward system on hyperdrive; enjoy anything you wish to unlimited levels, just stay away from THIS, dont do THIS. EVERYTHING else is OK. To these close-minded people, change is not needed. They have lived their entire lives staying away, not even trying it, and if they did, felt too guilty to form their own solid decision. They, therefor, will never experience the trial and possible error, the critique, the possible confrontation involved with taking a stance with your opinion, because the opinion you are comfortable with has been the general stance of the population for decades. This hardship is what makes letting your stance be known rewarding, and the lack thereof is the reason why many people cannot truly appreciate the open-mindedness of today's youth. We give our next generation what we didn't have, and this generation's gift is the ability to say "Why Not?", as this past generation was shunned from doing so many times...


If I'm incoherent, I apologize. You all already know

[jimmy8778]

i feel that most people dont like it because it is illegal, or they have tried it and didnt like it, but then again, those people arent automatically stuck to thinking it should be illegal. But many people dont like it because its illegal, so one time when we were actually just discussing it, not debating it, i asked one of my friends why they dont like it, and they said because it is illegal. Then i just asked them another question, i said, what if it was illegal? They had no answer, they said they still wouldnt like it, when i asked why, they said cause it was illegal.

That was the most confused, i had ever been, and im the one who smokes, not her. But that is the same backwards logic used by most of the people who feel that it is bad, and should be illegal. they cant even imagine a world where it would be legal, so they cant even consider it so. And the sad part about it is the fact that those people will never be changed, it has just been imposed on them so much that they arent even open minded people.

as much as i care about this person, and all the others, i feel that people so closed to opinion serve no purpose on this earth but as filler. She is a good artist, but at what cost, to be judgemental, and close-minded. It really sucks that i could never convince her even that it may be good, to her, it was just stuck as something bad.

Yet she drinks while on anit-psychotics underage, that was what really confused me, but not wanting an argument and accepting the stubborn-ness, because i am accepting of people, i decided not to throw that in her face.

[GartthyTheGreat]

i feel that most people dont like it because it is illegal, or they have tried it and didnt like it, but then again, those people arent automatically stuck to thinking it should be illegal.

My brother-in-law has never smoked and plans not to, but he agrees that it should be legal and realizes how its not really that bad :thumbsup:

[HazyVille]

It mostly has to do with the way the typical, Government obeying American was brought up. The way our culture is is pretty much laying down everything we might like, but following based on what our parents say. We find something we enjoy, and we are given every opportunity to continue to seek to enjoy it. We think up a great idea, and we are usually always fully supported. But when confronted with something socially taboo, we are shunned away from it at all costs.

I couldnt have said it better myself.

[jimmy8778]

oh, yeah, i never mean anything as blanket statements, even people who have smoke think that it should be illegal. but to save time and energy i make them, only hoping that people will understand that nothing, and i mean nothing is 100%.

but sorry for any confusion, they may cause.