Closet Grow one large (needs attn) and several seedlings (cfl/hps) - NEED HELP, pls

[Charas]

okay, so where do i start. well, lets see...we rescued the large plant from a friend of a fri...well, you get it. This was done shortly after, about five days to be exact, of setting up this new closet space. We also have 400watt HPS, several combos of nutes, hormones, etc..

I have a few questions about this space. It vents to the attic via a 23watt 6" fan with no duct attached. There are two fans in the room, one blowing slightly over the canopy of the hurting plant. The other fan is blowing in the area of the seedlings.

We have used many methods of germinating on these seedlings. Mostly straight to seedling soil or paper towel method worked best.

oh, p.s. the plant we rescued came out of a fox farm standard pot...with almost no root system. but the pot was very 'ghetto' so we replanted in almost the same space...a bit more and added some premix soil w/ perlite.

and p.s.s. is the perlite around the seedlings a good idea? can't hurt can it?

let the log begin...

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Charas Reviewed by Charas on 07-30-2008. Closet Grow one large (needs attn) and several seedlings (cfl/hps) - NEED HELP, pls okay, so where do i start. well, lets see...we rescued the large plant from a friend of a fri...well, you get it. This was done shortly after, about five days to be exact, of setting up this new closet space. We also have 400watt HPS, several combos of nutes, hormones, etc.. I have a few questions about this space. It vents to the attic via a 23watt 6" fan with no duct attached. There are two fans in the room, one blowing slightly over the canopy of the hurting plant. The other fan is Rating: 5

[Charas]

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can I use any of these to bring her back to life?

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maybe you can diagnose from some of these pics...

[Charas]

this is the best we could do as far as getting it upright....notice a view of the lst from the previous owner.

this pic shows the yellow color and other poor health.
and the one below shows our best seedlings which are five days old planted to peat pellets and then to seedling mix on about day three. germinated in a variety of ways. we lost track of the best germ method but noticed that they all had almost the same result in our trials.

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

So far nice work

Ok the plant that you rescued looks good now just be careful not to over love her!!!!!

Just give her water till she starts to pick up or maybe add some Folora Nova Grow. Smallest recomended amount on bottle!!!!!! and let her be for a few days. She is very fragile right now and nutes may burn the surviving roots that is why I say maybe with the FNG.

Oh yeh when you water add enough water till it comes out the bottom holes, let her drain, then let her be.

BOL JG

[Charas]

anyone wanna take the time to tell me how to make thumbnails for future reference?

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[Charas]

I've read around on this...but when would be a good time, in this situation, to add the compost tea in the pic above? I mean if this plant remains alive and thrives.

(p.s. what are trackbacks when posting? - like to direct to other maybe relevant posts)?

[Charas]

[PottyBear]

First, remember, I don't know nuttin' about this cannabis stuff except what I have read. I have read a lot, but I am sure it is no substitute for experience. However, I can apply knowledge of other plants to part of this and I have lots of experience with houseplants, gardening outdoors and growing vegetables indoors. I'm only a few weeks into my very first attempt at growing.

In my opinion, you have an excellent plant for taking some cuttings. It is very spindly and looks like it might have been in some so-so light. It also looks like it has not had a lot of air circulation because the stems look a bit weak. I think that if you flower it in its current condition, the stems will not be strong enough to hold it up.

So, if it was me, I would start taking some cuttings from the plant and rooting them. I would top the plant, and then select the other cuttings from many of those long, spindly side-shoots and try to give the plant a good solid core to grow around. I have read that you should not cut off more than 50% of the leaves at a time, so I would aim to cut back about half the leaves on that plant and root as many cuttings as you need. Your cuttings will produce much sooner than growing from seed.

I would then work on encouraging the stem to go more "up" by tying it to that stick you have a bit lower, a little at a time. Pull it in without breaking it, leave it for a couple of days, and then snug it up a little more. Get that "spine" of the plant strong enough to support the vegetation that will be regrowing from your cuttings, and your eventual flowers. I would use something soft like yarn or thicker string and don't pull it too tight, and not twist ties. Take your time and train it to straighten out. This will probably take a couple of weeks, and your cuttings will be rooted by then as a backup plan.

In my opinion, the plant just looks like it has not had the greatest light - the leaves look pale compared to other pics I have seen (and my own plants), although this could just be a slight overexposure in your pics. I would give it a small amount of high-nitrogen plant food because you are going to be trying to make it grow more vegetation, but don't go overboard with it. The Flora Micro in your pics has lots of N in it. A little dab will do ya, as they say.

Once you have the plant's stem straightened and strengthened in a couple of weeks or up to a month, it will probably be strong enough to flower. But, if it isn't, you can always use the cuttings to start something more, and you can use this as a mother plant.

Do you know if the plant was grown from a cutting with a verified sex or is it just a mystery right now? Someone here might be able to identify whether it is male or female if it has some pre-flowering but I sure can't. I'd hate for you to go to a huge effort to straighten it out and strengthen it and make clones only to discover it is an unwanted male plant. However, the practice would probably not hurt in the least - I would not mind a free plant to experiment on, so I would be less anxious about screwing up.

Anyway, get the light as close as you can without burning the plant (hold your hand where the leaves would be and if is too hot for your hand after 30 secs or so it is too hot for the plant). The closer the light the less the plant will try and stretch to reach it causing those large gaps between nodes.

A little patience and I think you can make it work...

Your mileage may vary, and more experienced growers may have other opinions...