Quote Originally Posted by thcbongman
If there wasn't demand for government, the government would have never gotten bigger and more powerful. If everyone could manage their own morality, their own behavior in ways which is respectful to all, there would be no purpose for government. People kill, people steal, people are animals. Complex and intelligent but still animals. We fight for territory, we fight for those most similar to us. What makes you think people can handle themselves in an uncontrolled environment?

thcbongman, this isn't really an argument agains what DelusionsofNormality was saying. He said it's the government's place to uphold citizen's rights, not police subjective morality. The duties of government you just described are about upholding rights. Every single basic human right is a factor based in morality, but the "moral policing" going on today isn't a matter of human rights, it's a matter government discrimination against a particular group (in this case, white people). You say "people kill, people steal", and these things are prevented by law because it's a basic human right not to have your property stolen, and a basic right not to have your life taken from you. It is not a basic human right to be discriminated or given an advantage based on your race. Killing, stealing, assault; freedom from these is guaranteed to all people. Affirmative action is guaranteed to select few, which is completely against the spirit of equallity and fairness.
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