Buying Recomendations - Considering SSV, Volcano, HerbalAire, Extreme...

[FourTwenty4Life]

I have the super vapezilla and a inverter in my car :thumbsup:

I recently emailed the people at Storz-Bickel, the company that makes the Volcano. The focus of my communication was to find out their response to the charge that an aluminum heating element verses a ceramic element is dangerous. They wrote:

Where is vapefiend? :thumbsup::hippy:

How do I get more green bars like you G13? My black is from some long ago infraction when I posted a link to a salvia store..oops lol learned my lesson. Any way I can go GREEN? :hippy:

FourTwenty4Life Reviewed by FourTwenty4Life on 03-03-2009. Buying Recomendations - Considering SSV, Volcano, HerbalAire, Extreme... Been smoking several years, plan on smoking several more. This would be my first vape purchase and as much research and looking as I've been doing, I still have plenty of questions on what would really be the best for me, since I have little vape experience. Here's the breakdown. Price: $600 comfortable max, but a few hundred less would obviously be nice. Use: Most nights my fiancee and I smoke a snapper bowl each with dinner and/or before bed. Most of the time would be used for the two Rating: 5

[VapedG13]

Where is vapefiend? :thumbsup::hippy:

How do I get more green bars like you G13? My black is from some long ago infraction when I posted a link to a salvia store..oops lol learned my lesson. Any way I can go GREEN? :hippy:

Write to the mod.... they disabled your ability to receive reputations

[Hennessy1414]

Where is vapefiend? :thumbsup::hippy:

I hate how you fanboy the cano'. bottom line is I can pick up 2-3 vapes and a sac of nug for the price of a cano...that right there tells me wassup

[FourTwenty4Life]

I hate how you fanboy the cano'. bottom line is I can pick up 2-3 vapes and a sac of nug for the price of a cano...that right there tells me wassup

I've seen used Volcanos as low as $250 on ebay.:hippy:

[Hennessy1414]

who cares I want to be interacting with my vapor experience a little bit! I want to be able to control the hit ya know...makes it more enjoyable. SSV, VHW, PD, E, DBV all work on trying to get a hit....you are the deciding factor on how much cloud you get...not some bag/fan combo...even tho that is fun..thats why theres more reason for the E. better than your 'cano i can tell you this much


oh yea check this if you want cano hate :hippy:

Fuck Combustion - Vaporizer Forum / Get it all out - Bash the Volcano thread

[FourTwenty4Life]

who cares I want to be interacting with my vapor experience a little bit! I want to be able to control the hit ya know...makes it more enjoyable. SSV, VHW, PD, E, DBV all work on trying to get a hit....you are the deciding factor on how much cloud you get...not some bag/fan combo...even tho that is fun..thats why theres more reason for the E. better than your 'cano i can tell you this much


oh yea check this if you want cano hate :hippy:

Fuck Combustion - Vaporizer Forum / Get it all out - Bash the Volcano thread

That's your opinion. I think you're wrong. I interact plenty with my vaporizer and can decide exactly "how much cloud" I want so I don't know what you're talking about. How many more times are we going to post links to that site??? Enough is enough. No one cares what a bunch of people think. You can clearly read bias in almost everything on there. Go with your gut instinct, get what you want, what you can afford, etc..don't listen to these people, don't listen to me, just get a vape that fits you. We can argue this for the next 10 years and you're still not going to convince me of your opinion just like I won't convince you of mine so let's all just grow up and STFU. :thumbsup::hippy:

[lwien123]

That's your opinion. I think you're wrong. I interact plenty with my vaporizer and can decide exactly "how much cloud" I want so I don't know what you're talking about. How many more times are we going to post links to that site??? Enough is enough. No one cares what a bunch of people think. You can clearly read bias in almost everything on there. Go with your gut instinct, get what you want, what you can afford, etc..don't listen to these people, don't listen to me, just get a vape that fits you. We can argue this for the next 10 years and you're still not going to convince me of your opinion just like I won't convince you of mine so let's all just grow up and STFU. :thumbsup::hippy:

You know what's interesting about this discussion?

In various threads here, FourTwenty, there seems to be conflict with you and other posters, and yet, when you and I got into it over your over-zealous love for the 'Cano, you gave me negative rep with an explanation of "you like to argue"?

Here's the deal. It's not ME that likes to argue, but it is you that invites all this conflict with your fanboy approach to your vape. When you do that, people, including myself, will challenge you, and when they do, you go on this tirade of telling people to "STFU" or "grow-up" or whatever else you can do to make it personal, and then you have the gaul to give me negative rep with an explanation of "you like to argue"?

I've told you before, and I'll say it again. You CAN give people advice about what vape to get WITHOUT telling people that YOUR vape is the best vape out there.

However, you DID get it right when you said, "We can argue this for the next 10 years and you're still not going to convince me of your opinion just like I won't convince you of mine ", but you can go a long way to eliminate these kinds of conflicts by not inviting them in the first place, which you have done repeatedly. Anytime you get on a soapbox and SCREAM that the 'Cano is the BEST, because of R&D, scientific reports, high unit sales figures, etc etc etc blah, blah, blah, then you have to expect some people to throw tomatoes, but when they do, to then turn around and give them bad rep claiming that it is THEM that likes to argue is................hell, I don't even know what the word is to describe that.

PS

To the OP and everyone else reading this thread, I apologize for this sidetrack, but after getting negative rep from this guy, I just had to say something and being that there is no PM here on this site, this was the only venue that I had. OK...back to your regular scheduled programming..........

[FourTwenty4Life]

More proof that I've always held my ground in where I stand but still never said cano was the 1 and only....

Quick argument against Extreme vape...who wants to wait 20 min for their vape to warm up like the manufacturer suggest on the wikipedia looking How To page...?? My cano takes about 4 minutes...20min or 4..hmmm you decide . I still haven't seen ANY proof that whip is better or higher vape ratio but please share otherwise
LOL you really don't know what you're talking about. They funded the study ....NO SHIT, guess what, it's not free to get stuff like that properly tested so your argument doesn't "hold water" with me. I don't care what BS you say just to argue with me. You're obviously dislexic because I never said cano is the best...that's opinion BUT the FACTS are in the SALES, REPUTATION, and most importantly RELIABILITY.

No one is going to "fall" for any rhetoric except yours. I have already stated but will repeat that I encourage all vape buyers to do their own research and establish their own opinion . You just don't like that I defend my personal choice which is the cano. I don't think everyone should have a Volcano. It's not for everyone . Honestly though buddy, I can make the same kind of argument you're making about ANY vape out there. The facts speak for themself. Let me try to be clear........ If you want portable, multi function, cheaper vape ,GO FOR IT. However if you want a reliable , trusted name, always happy customer with little /no negative feedback, #1 sales, and can afford a little extra for safest proven materials and years R&D , I SUGGEST the Volcano .Some care about those facts, others care less. I'm sure other vapes are safe but none have stood the test of time yet like cano...but maybe time will change that. I'm looking forward to getting a portable vape so should we argue about that now?:thumbsup::hippy::wtf:

I think you misunderstood what I meant and clearly didn't read my last response .....

You didn't respond to half of what I stated either.
1st...I said its BEST in sales, rep and reliability , shall i repeat?????? And LIKE I'VE SAID BE4, Obviously other vapes for diff reasons which is why I've suggested SS and II in other posts hence you are WRONG thus shouldn't be debating me...??


2- The study was funded to get real results so that they knew exactly what there product was doing... You are basically saying they either lied or paid someone off or did SOMETHING shady to alter results? You do realise that the Volcano is a vaporizer geared to healthier lifestyle right? So they're going to fake results for brag rights? That's ridiculous. They had a good product but not the expertise or equipment to property test thus pay. Simple as that. If it was that easy, other vape companies would do it..:thumbsup:

To your pinch in the cano chamber statements ...Vapor/Air means jack shit when vaping just a pinch, im still getting the same THC as that same amt of bud in purple days.NEXT...

Finally, you have how many post so how much advice have you given?? I repeat yet again that the cano isn't for everyone and I respect others opinions and vaporizer /smoke methods. I don't "steer buyers" anywhere because this is a forum, not a vaporizer sales and review site.

I have always suggested getting what's right for you. I just happen to remind people of cano benefits obviously cause I have one and have the experience from other vapes to compare...i happen to like cano best, just opinion... that seems to irritate you and/or you misunderstand me. I apologize and will try to lay off cano talk....Guess I shouldn't of started the thread titled "High on vapor? Post Here" to bring ALL vapers TOGETHER in PEACE...............

Later... :hippy:

I don't ask or desire anyone on this forum to view me as either a guru or a condescending asshole. My goal is to have good, helpful info here, not internet myths or opinions stated as facts. I don't care who provides the info. I have the knowledge that I have from doing research. Sometimes that comes from other posters. If it disagrees with what I believe to be true, I try to investigate further. If I find I'm wrong I'll admit it. If someone disagrees with what I say, I'll be glad to discuss the issue. That's assuming we can agree on the issue. That's been a problem here before, and I'm not going to repeat it.

I'm not trying to win a popularity contest and I'm not here to stroke my ego. If I come off as condescending or pissed off or whatever negative expresion comes to mind, you can bet someone has come off as presenting some opinion as fact or that there opinion means more than other peoples. If you disagree with the facts of my post, or want clarification, fine, just ask.

If you'd like a little more well rounded picture of me, maybe you should read a post or two outside the vape section. So far you've just judged me based on the posts that interest you personally. Do I show the harder side of my personality here in the vape section sometimes. You bet. And when I do it's not arbitrary. Opinions are like assholes and we all got 'em. :hippy:

[squeeg420]

I'd say go with a Volcano Classic and a Easy Valve if you want the most user friendly and efficient vaping.

NO, please no... This is my opinion, of course, but the EZ valve is not so "EZ." I have yet to meet someone with an EZ valve that doesn't ever try to change the balloons cause they ran out of valve/bag combos. This involves rigging, and takes a special technique. I have a digit, but I won't knock the classic, as its warranty is better and it heats up just a bit faster. I have a solid valve, and the learning curve is not too bad. I buy Reynold's Large or Turkey Size oven bags instead of the volcano brand (quieter, almost no crinkling). I can only imagine how much money I've saved with the solid valve. FYI, my entire cleaning process (dis-assembly, alcohol soak, dishwasher) takes only an hour or 2 and the valve and chamber both look and smell like new. I debated it a lot before my purchase and decided to go the economical route. I haven't regretted it; Not even the ~$700 I spent on this beauty.

[dziendobry4]

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