NUTES/Feeding Issues W/ CHURCH Need Help!!!!

[stinkyattic]

I'm going to strongly recommend here on record that you try a nute that is buffered for soil use, to further keep it in the desired range. The Canna line is an example of one.

Also, you have been doing this a while; if your electrode is older, it may actually need cleaning. This is what I do at teh lab for glass electrodes:
Acetone will remove organic gunk, and 'shocking' it by placing it in a solution of 50% pH down for ~30 seconds, RINSING WELL, placing in 50% pH up for 30 seconds, rinse again, repeat 3x, always ENDING with the pH down, then rinse off REALLY well before use- this conditions the electrode.
Also even if it doesn't need cal, check it against a fert solution that you have tested with liquid drops.

[GreenLeaf420]

I'm going to strongly recommend here on record that you try a nute that is buffered for soil use, to further keep it in the desired range. The Canna line is an example of one.

Also, you have been doing this a while; if your electrode is older, it may actually need cleaning. This is what I do at teh lab for glass electrodes:
Acetone will remove organic gunk, and 'shocking' it by placing it in a solution of 50% pH down for ~30 seconds, RINSING WELL, placing in 50% pH up for 30 seconds, rinse again, repeat 3x, always ENDING with the pH down, then rinse off REALLY well before use- this conditions the electrode.
Also even if it doesn't need cal, check it against a fert solution that you have tested with liquid drops.

I just looked @ the Canna Line and have no IDEA:rastasmoke: what I'm even looking at. I've been looking for a Grow Log on CHURCH for months now. I can not find any that are informative. I know that there are issues because GHS called a recall on them. They said that they recalled em because they did not POP. I did not see or hear of any negative traits that the strain carried just the recall but w/ the TW was the exact opossite. So I chose the church so I REVERSED all in the room and have no issues as far as herming and the TW looks great and the church is slow slow.. That is one thing that I have read about is that CHURCH's a very late developer. I did bury the 1" COCO pots with the babies in the beds... I can ramble all day and playing all that changed along the way... I will be starting up a Diary (last 3 weeks) I've been telling myself... I have quite a few church in Veg and they are all green and happy:wtf:... I know (From other threads) that changing a line can change and make a tremendous impact to the garden.. If it is not a feeding issue I'd rather not switch so I will give it 10 days to see if I (I hope we) can get a finger on it!!!! I think I will take GH's chart and feed @ 1/2 strenght for a week and see how it takes. I bought a lot of nutes so I do not have to make the trip... LOL I will get run off and Ill MicroFoil Spary tomorrow...

Thanks for all the help to all
Scincerelly,
GL!

[GreenLeaf420]

OK I popped some holes in the sides.... I really would like to know why some are doing great in the beds and others look like the lights changed yesterday... It is really bothersome but I have the big Girls that can use Xtra light If I wack 2 beds 30 little girlies out... I don't know even the church that is in pails has very little flowers forming... I think it is the strain not the beds... Their are some feeding issues but tommorow I will be dumping the beds with a huge flush going away over night Sun ill see them then next visit will be Tues AM...

I gave them the FloraMicro Fiolar spray today as well..

Keep you updated GL any IDEAS are more then welcomed Thank to ALL::thumbsup:

[GreenLeaf420]

Come on you guys.....the guy is growing in beds with no drainage right?

Some, from what I gather, but most likely inadequate.

I added some drainage holes to the sides of the beds to see if their are any changes...:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Weedhound]

GL I'm VERY interesed as to why some seem so happy and some don't. I've got two hydro plants going right now that are exactly the same Same age, same medium, same seeds, same ppms EVERYTHING!! Ones doing BEAUTIFULLY and the other is crawling along and is only about 1/2 the size of its sister. WHY? I don't get it either......

Sorry...to whine on your thread....:wtf:....rant over......

[GreenLeaf420]

GL I'm VERY interesed as to why some seem so happy and some don't. I've got two hydro plants going right now that are exactly the same Same age, same medium, same seeds, same ppms EVERYTHING!! Ones doing BEAUTIFULLY and the other is crawling along and is only about 1/2 the size of its sister. WHY? I don't get it either......

Sorry...to whine on your thread....:wtf:....rant over......

Please WH Continue it is driving me nuts as well...

STINK YOU HAVE ME LET'S TALK CANNA LINE!!!!

It may not be GH but why chance it now!!!!

Their is too much riding on a few Gallons of NUTES!!!! If you feel it is one of the possibility's then I'm willing to go ahead and change out.... Just like WH said their are girls w/ no affects and others FUCKED UP but they look happy w/ very little development... I see the big CHURCH's and the flowering is the same SHITTY and SLOW....

I'm mind fucked on this one... I would like to take a weed whacker to the room

GL1 OUT!!!

[GreenLeaf420]

:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:No response!!!!Well off to WoodStock 4 the W/E frunked UP!!!! 4 NOW a d the long w.e

See you all on Mon=Tues

GL!

[GreenLeaf420]

Back from Wood Stock COOL PLACE:

OK I think I figured out the problem... My CO2 is in front of the the 2 beds with issues and they dry up quick from the HEAT... Now the back beds are completely GREEN. Just the front two by the CO2 Burner are yellowing// The CO@ is hanging from the ceiling and is about 7-8 Ft Away... The Machine is spark ignition no glow plug or Pilot light... I have it only set to 1100 I will be bumping it up this week... STINK as far as the feeding I took some advice on the soil issue I added in a Tea.. Mothers Earth they seem much more happy have not yet reached over 1150 but tomorrow should be able to go to 1200 if all is well... The CHURCH is a late developer... The flowers were scarce and now they are blowing out like crazy.. I do not have air cooled lamps and had them pretty far off 22" from the canopy but I dropped them down to about 14" will see so far they like it... Think it is getting dialed in should be a smooooth landing keeping my FINGERS CROSSED

GL1

[stinkyattic]

All right, so am I! You should try to get your air circulating better then to prevent uneven patches of high CO2 or high heat in the room. Cool on the tea; it's probably got some good organic buffers/chelators that are helping keep micros available. And you sprayed a micro supp? That's the main reason your leaves are going to green up.

I was talking to my hydro shop guru the other day and if you want to go bed style, he'd recommend a deeper bed, full of an inert material or stabilized soilless mix, with SUPER EXTRA perlite. Personally, I'd run it as a top feeding drip-to-waste. Once long ago and far away on a site called Marihemp, was this dude who grew in beds made of kiddie pools full of hydroton... very cool!

[GreenLeaf420]

The good old pool Tech was going to be plan 2 but I found the Rubber Maids. They seem to be handling it pretty well except for the 2 fronts beds... I have a Air Can almost directly underneath the CO2 and it is blowing all times... Tomorrow ill add another fan into the room next to the CO2.. I do not see as good of development on the 2 front beds next to the CO2 like I do to the ones away from the CO2 in the rear.

They are really really happy looking.. I dropped down the Temp on the A/C's a bit Their is another 30 days or so left and I only chopped once into the lower branches taken off 7-8 shoots off the bottom 10 days in... All the grows I seen with beds and Clones seem to only have 1 large bud with maybe 2 little shoots.. These have a few more shoots then I would like but I think I will mess up the plants if I clean up some side shoots... I will just ride it out Yield should be OK but not GREAT... Time will tell Finally hit them w/ 1350 Ppm's the Tea seems to be helping out...

Thanks GL1