NUTES/Feeding Issues W/ CHURCH Need Help!!!!

[GreenLeaf420]

I'm currently growing Church along w/ some other strains. I have no issues w/ the other plants but the CHURCH is a headache as far as the NUTES are concerned.. I'm using the GH 3 Part System.. I have gone over 900 2 times and caught NUTE burn both times.

I'm using the GH 3 part w/ Flora Nector and Voodo Juice... I have not had any issues when staying @ 900 I'm going 50mL Micro 50ML Bloom 20-30 ML Grow (Still) and adding some Flora Nectar and Voodo Juice when I feel up to It...

The CHURCH is very very temperamental:wtf: I HATE THE SHIT It is Driving me nuts on NUTES... The others are so happy happy W/ what ever I hit them W/ I really am wondering If I should ripp out two beds of CHURCH to make more room for the big Momma's... I just can not do it but the church is not developing no were near as well as the others...

The cuttings came off of huge W/F's that were up to 1600ppm's. I had issues w/ them in the beginning but then they started to take to it after a week or so.. Now with them in soil I can not Jack up the NUTES @ all... I'm not looking to MAXX MAXX UP w/ the Nutes but 900 is low. I'm 18 days into flower and all are out performing the churchdevelopment wise and I can not reach a feeding schedule were I'm happy any help will be greatly appreciated....

Thanks in Advanced GL420:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:

OHH YEAH conditions 85 lights on w/ CO2 @ 1200.. Lights out 79 humidity 40-53% BUT USUALLY under 50%. All Sunshine#4 soil PH of soil is 6.5 6.3. Tap water here is very very soft adding Cal-Mag +.. I know I'm forgetting something:rastasmoke: If so please just ask.. I was dropping the PH in the H2o to 6.3 but for now leaving it @ 6.8-6.9

Thanks again GL1

GreenLeaf420 Reviewed by GreenLeaf420 on 07-23-2008. NUTES/Feeding Issues W/ CHURCH Need Help!!!! I'm currently growing Church along w/ some other strains. I have no issues w/ the other plants but the CHURCH is a headache as far as the NUTES are concerned.. I'm using the GH 3 Part System.. I have gone over 900 2 times and caught NUTE burn both times. I'm using the GH 3 part w/ Flora Nector and Voodo Juice... I have not had any issues when staying @ 900 I'm going 50mL Micro 50ML Bloom 20-30 ML Grow (Still) and adding some Flora Nectar and Voodo Juice when I feel up to It... The CHURCH Rating: 5

[SunnyD]

That sounds pretty ridiculous that your Church is being so difficult...

Have you tried just giving them nothing but Ph'd water for a while? Then trying to re-instate the nutes???

Maybe there's some potential clogging that is messing things up...

That's extremely strange seeing as how their mum was up to 1600ppm...

Sorry, I don't think I'm of much help...no clue

[Weedhound]

I think your issue may have been the low ph......is one of those ph numbers you're posting there the actual ph runoff? If so...which one?

How long has the plant been in the same soil and/or pot? I've discovered the joys of transplanting into fresh soil which seems to solve so many problems for my soil plants that it almost brings a tear of joy to my eye.......

Whats the ppm of of your runoff as well?

[GreenLeaf420]

WH they have been in 5-6" beds for only 28 days roots are not bound.... I do not think that is an issue and if it is I can not Correct it.. the rest were transplanted a week prior to flower... The Ph's that I posted were all current feeding PH'd water... Why what #'s are in question... This is really bthering me.. Sunny yes I have tried lots of washes... Also adding Flora Nova to the flushes for 3+ days.... I can't get this plant to eat... SNS is having the same issues w/ her but I have a few more then him.... I don't feel happy about it the smile was a Joke

Thanks Again GL1

[stinkyattic]

If you are feeding at 6.3-6.5, and in a soil or soilless mix, there,s a very high likelyhood that your runoff is going to be even lower... You should be feeding at the high end of the soil range in a peat based soil, and the high end of the soilless range in a peat based soilless.
Also, beds may not allow the amount of oxygen into the root zone that a fast growing annual needs, ESPECIALLY running supplemental CO2 in the room.
You and Sn are both having a similar issue? Stands to reason; he was over-watering and the mulch paper on his pots is preventing air reaching the root zone. Aerate your soil; if that means poking holes in it, or drilling large holes in the sides of the beds, whatever- you need to get some oxygen in there!!!

[GreenLeaf420]

Thanks Stink I will put the holes in the Beds. I never had any intentions of doing that but if you say so Ill give it a try... Here is the Kicker though I have others in 5 Gallon pots that have good Aeration going to the roots and just the CHURCH is having the issues with the NUTES... All the other girls are taking up the NUTES just fine...

I try to cultivate the soil everyday to see if there will be any difference. Check this out were I can reach and turn the soil the plants are reacting negative but were I can not reach they are doing better.... It's just in my Case WTF I can not catch a break.

I will try to drill some nice 1/2" holes along side the beds to see if that will correct the issue @ hand...

Thanks A lot GL1

[stinkyattic]

Wait, hang on- how do you cultivate the soil? How deeply?

[GreenLeaf420]

I just go across w/ My hands lightly just wiping it back and forth making sure not to hit the Roots @ All turning the top of the soil....

WHY WHY???? YOU ARE GETTING ME NERVOUS!!!! GL1

[stinkyattic]

I would avoid that actually. The way you describe is probably compacting the soil. Indoors, cultivating your pots isn't necessary, and I personally would just poke holes with a chopstick and besides that, let them be.

I'm still wracking my [small] brain to think of other reasons. I'm sure this is a combination of multiple factors here... hmmmmm....

Where the heck is rhizome when ya need him? This is one of those stumpers fo'sho!

[GreenLeaf420]

I sent him a MSG I hope he can stop in my mind is boggled and I can not figure it out... Tried many flushes lowering PH raising PH Cal-Mag+ ect ect ect.... I just can not put my finger on it!!!

GL1