planes..trains..HELICOPTER

[Weedhound]

Yeah I don't like the breakdown between inside and outside either.......:wtf: And then there is the whole "Is a clone a plant?" discussion.

[Weedhound]

Lanie.....(or anyone)

Do you have a link or source you can direct me to regarding the gun/growing laws in CA. I'm having trouble finding good info......

Thanks to anyone who can help.

[RobPA]

law enforcement has made it a policy to take everything if you are over your limits. This includes any and all plants and product that is on the premises.

Behave responsibly, and they have no reason to bug you (and they have repeatedly said this).

Also do NOT HAVE ANY FIRE ARMS ON THE PREMISES, this is a felony and caries a mandatory jail time, so be smart, take the guns to you mom's house, disassemble them and store them there...


Best of luck!

So one of the penalties of growing pot is you lose your constitutional right to bear arms in your own home to protect it? I would think its more of a reason to have a gun, to protect the members of your co-op and your medicine from robbers.

[trinitybound]

I love the idea of a greenhouse, I think they are less conspicous that having plants out in the open. Also they let you control the weather somewhat. I've been reading a book called Hydroponic food production by Howard M Resh. He's a professor at UC Davis, the book made me a believer in greehouse growing. Check out target.com and search for greenhouses, you'll find some reasonably priced portable houses that pop up like a tent and come in opaque or transparent. The drawback to greenhouses is light transfer, depending on the material, and humidity, which can usually be controlled with just a fan.

[silkyblue]

we live near a commuter airport
theyve been giving plane rides all week

theyre making me nervous :wtf:


max 4 plants State limit :hippy:

Ive had to tie some down :weedpoke::weedpoke::weedpoke:

they hate it

[veggii]

beware of helicoptors!!! if you here a helicoptor look outside at it,verify who it is!! get some pics of them !! if they are not police officers, turn them in they may be crooks staking out your grow to rob you at harvest!! look for the numbers on the chopper and write them down if no camera. things are out of hand in california !! >BECAREFULL< !! heard crooks have been flying over grows on the westcoast and marking location on gps and taking pics and rating them, too comeback at harvest time and jack them. grrrrrrrr :wtf: grrrrrrrrr... grrrrrrrrrrr

[allrollsin21]

Hound- I am pretty sure that in this foothill county a clone IS counted as a plant. I was told that a few counties around here will count a plant if it is a pot with a rootball still in it. Needless to say i have been cleaning up finished grows promptly.
Lanie- I know of instances where the police have arrested folks being a few pounds over and they took grow lights and fans that were in a closet not being used. There was nothing going on inside in terms of a grow, and they still took it. Along with the computer...
RobPA- It is just another example of how medicinal growers are persecuted for their harmless actions. The fact that i cannot protect my family with a firearm when i am living in a high crime (meth) area is unforgivable. Truly anti-American.
Veggi-As far as them being robbers, i believe that is happening but with the amount of time they spent flying over and hovering, over my relatively tiny garden, it does not add up. They would have blown by me looking for someone with a lot bigger balls...
EVERYONE-if anyone did come to my home to steal my medicine, i would bag it up for them with a smile...if they were armed. I hope ya'll would do the same!

[silkyblue]

come to my home to steal my medicine, i would bag it up for them with a smile

I hear ya
my sac would go up as the first offering if
an intruder thinks we have $$ coming out da ass
laying around on the coffee tabla'


dont steal it, or kill for it, share it

:jointsmile:

[JD1stTimer]

I think the reason you can't have a gun is because when they ram your door down at three in the morning and shoot your dogs any normal person would let a few rounds go into their faces. They need to be able to tear your shit up with no worries, like Rambo fighting defenseless children. That's what kind of tough guys they are. LOL. BTW if you do have a gun and you brandish it when they barge in at 3:00 am they will kill you. You will NOT get out alive. I hate the modern governments of this world, but remember we are all just dealing with principalities and powers, and the only TRUE weapon they have is the fear that keeps everyone from protesting. And also the strange mind-wash that's been done on all the young people that causes disorganized and lackluster protesting techniques. Where's a thousand stoners gathering in some unfriendly town's park to all blaze up at once? I don't mean just marching where they have permits, I mean full-on civil disobedience. I was reading about Hempfest having some difficulty with permits for a proposed venue or something, well, why not just set up there anyway and get carted off to the cooler? During the civil rights struggles of the 60s people were willing to break the law publicly en masse with full knowledge they were going to be beaten half to death or to death and they would be thrown in jail. They built a giant campground in Washington and lived in mud with no facilities for weeks. But the system has found out how to wash the piss and vinegar right out of everyone's minds. "You have the right to do anything you want as long as it's shopping, watching tv, working at a sucky-ass job or playing sports. With all these allowances why would you need freedoms? UNLESS YOU'RE UNAMERICAN!!! Mwhahahaha! Oh, and we can fix that too, just take this pill. It'll shut you up and sit your ass down, pretty as a peach."

I think the next step would be to have a yearly "Freedom Day", when the government at all levels will not enforce any laws whatsoever. That way the people will be so disrupted by the crime sprees, rape, murder, burglary they will really be thankful for all our fabulous laws, and sorry that they ever think bad thoughts about Law and Order. They would BEG the next day for any new laws the government wanted to give them. "Yes, please make owning scary dogs illegal!!! It's the opposite of the chaos Freedom brings! Kisses and candy for all fascists keeping me safe from myself and everyone else! I'll pay any price to be safe, except to learn defense and keep myself safe, that's a line I won't cross! It's barbaric!"

Anyway, I am a member of NORML on national and local levels, and one thing I wish our local chapter would do would be to have smoke-ins on courthouse lawns. Everyone bring their own j so no one gets charged with trafficking, and see how much manpower the police can muster. But I guess those days are dead and gone.

[Lanietheberner]

but considering that the fed guys consider this illegal, then when you have a gun around they like to add an additional felony into the mix.... (and this one carries considerable time...).

We live in the back country, and have issues with all kinds of critters (Mr. Stinky typically comes for a visit about 3 times a year) and 2 months ago our 4-legged kid got into a discussion with Mr. Stinky, and then came running into the house after being sprayed, and rolled on the most comfortable, old spongy leather sofa....

I won't even tell you the story about walking around our fenced veggie garden and finding a 100 pound deer with it's anus gone from a Mountain Lion...

It's a bit scarry, and I'm getting better with my slingshot... LOL!!!!