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[leadmagnet]

Contact any 215 lawyer, and there are a number listed on the NORML website. We have a local attorney and the first thing that comes out of his mouth is....


"ABSOLUTELY NO FIREARMS"

Unless you want to spend a lot of time in a orange jumpsuit, sleeping on bunk bed with a big hairy guy who's name is Bubba below you, and he smells really bad for a loooooong time!

It's a requirement of the courts to sentence you to this jail time. It CANNOT be waved.

Don't be stupid, get rid of the firearms, or find another location

I call BS. Unless you and your lawyer are referring only to Federal law, I would appreciate it if you were to link a reference for that position.

By the way, I am a retired police officer from the State of California.

leadmagnet Reviewed by leadmagnet on 10-01-2008. planes..trains..HELICOPTER Well i was out in the garden the other day applying some lst to the plants, which are right next to the house, and i see a helicopter combing the area. There is a big block of trees between us. Well they decide to see whats on the other side and they come right above me. Spot me and circle back and forth FOUR times. I was able to look right into their eyes, they were that low. I felt violated and did not realize that my property ended directly above my sneakers. It was sensory Rating: 5

[Weedhound]

Lead, so far this is all I can find but I'll keep looking.......I STILL would love to know about the airguns.....are they or are they NOT firearms?

ASA : California Legal Tip of the Month

[leadmagnet]

Lead, so far this is all I can find but I'll keep looking.......I STILL would love to know about the airguns.....are they or are they NOT firearms?

ASA:California Legal Tip of the Month

Airguns ARE NOT considered firearms. However, if you are on probation or parole thet can still be considered unlawful to possess and a violation as per the terms and conditions of your probation/parole.

Under federal law, possession of a FIREARM in conjunction with another crime will add a minimum of five years on to your sentence. When the feds start busting small grows, there will be a LOT of people going to prison for terribly long terms.

Fuck those bastards and their "war on drugs".

[phatsesh101]

well first of all im not committing a crime i have a legal right to grow and posses a fire arm.
the problem arises when they charge you with maintaing and protecting a drug house. and it makes our cause look bad like were radicals or something

well to the point on an occasion when the cops came to my house and asked if i had any fire arms i said yes so they follwed me and secured it but it was in the same closet as some curing meds. he mentioned that he wasnt there for weed i said i got rec. he told me that from now on he reccomends that i keep the firearms not in the same room or area cause it looks like im protecting my dope keep them out of sight and mind and locked up. most cops are gun crazy so they might understand.

and also i heard somthing about its easier to prove a collective rather than a coop in cali cause of the required paperwork

[leadmagnet]

well first of all im not committing a crime i have a legal right to grow and posses a fire arm.
the problem arises when they charge you with maintaing and protecting a drug house. and it makes our cause look bad like were radicals or something

Free Americans acting within the scope of the law does not serve to "make our cause look bad". Pretending we are somehow second class citizens without the rights afforded to us by our Constitution because we consume cannabis does.

Could you please identify which California statute you are referring to when you say "maintaing and protecting a drug house"?

Lead

[Lanietheberner]

anyone of the attorneys on the NORML List, as the info that I've passed along regarding the firearm possession was the first thing that they all say "get rid of the firearms"....

I don't claim to be a lawyer, just want to never have to use one!

[Lanietheberner]

October 2006: Guns and Medical Marijuana

If at all possible, always avoid growing or storing medical marijuana in the same structure or in the vicinity of where firearms are kept. If charged with medical marijuana possession or sales, it can often be a challenge to defend oneself. However, if you add guns to the mix, the stakes are significantly increased.

Typically, if firearms are found at the scene of a criminal investigation, and if someone is charged and eventually convicted, their sentence can be dramatically increased. If someone is convicted under federal law of charges involving medical marijuana, and it can be shown that a gun was merely present during the "crime," the sentence will be a minimum of 5 years. If a gun is brandished during a federal "crime" related to medical marijuana, the sentence will be a minimum of 7 years, and if a gun is discharged, the sentence will be a minimum of 10 years.

ASA strongly advises that if you are a medical marijuana patient or provider, do not carry or keep firearms on your property or in your vehicle.

Just leave the firearms at your mom's house and you'll be much happier!

[leadmagnet]

Anyone recall if the feds have involved themselves in grow ops of 99 plants or less in recent history?

[allrollsin21]

Anyone recall if the feds have involved themselves in grow ops of 99 plants or less in recent history?

I do recall at least one case where the feds charged someone for growing more than 100 plants over the course of a few years. That is scary and bullshit. That would mean after a few years many med. growers could be pinned with the 100+ plant penalties.

I also know of at least one case where the feds arrested someone for growing less than 100 plants, approx. 30 if i recall, because of the enormity of the plants. The rules can be bent BOTH ways, and often are.

[Lanietheberner]

they arrested a guy who had 26 total kids onsite (his ex-wife called the LE agency since her husband could not pay to support his kids - idiots both!). The Federal and local guys showed up and found 26 kids and 22 pounds of trimmings. They arrested him, seized his house, and the truck he had just bought with his house equity line.....

He will end up doing 3 years, paying @$50K to get his home back, and he will never see his brand new (less than 2K miles) truck again. He also is responsible for @$100K worth of legal help.

Now the question is wether the not paying his ex-wife the $290 per month in child support was a worthwhile transaction?

He'll end up spending @$180K, so how long will it take you to generate $180K at $290 per month....? 51.72 years!

What a moron, and I asked him what he was thinking....? He just sat there looking stupid, and had no answer.

Take care of your responsibilities, especially when it involves your children!:thumbsup:

There is no excuse for this kind of stupiditiy:wtf: