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07-21-2008, 01:33 AM #1OPSenior Member
strange find on erowid
Collecting all the info (power) that I could in my defense against this tyranical bullshit that they call piss testing, I went to the cannabis vault at erowid and amazingly I saw under the false positives listed vitiman b-12. Does anyone KNOW any different? I had felt really ok about this until I saw this on erowid. My Reason for concern is that I am a diabetic and heavy , having to piss this week for all the marbles (15k raise) with my first void undilluted is showing a faint line. I am approx 45 days or so from my last indulgence. I am afraid to go completely undilluted as I do not completely trust the single test card regaurdless of their supposed accuracy. What I am saying being a heavy user +overweight+ mildly diabetic+ b12from bcomplex vits could = failure. When I dillute the line is a little darker. I'm verging on subbing at this point, all I that I have to sub with is either 2 year old frozen piss and uncle johns 2 years old also and my grandsons piss but he takes ritalin.
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STIMPY21STIMPY21 Reviewed by STIMPY21 on . strange find on erowid Collecting all the info (power) that I could in my defense against this tyranical bullshit that they call piss testing, I went to the cannabis vault at erowid and amazingly I saw under the false positives listed vitiman b-12. Does anyone KNOW any different? I had felt really ok about this until I saw this on erowid. My Reason for concern is that I am a diabetic and heavy , having to piss this week for all the marbles (15k raise) with my first void undilluted is showing a faint line. I am Rating: 5
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07-21-2008, 04:10 AM #2Junior Member
strange find on erowid
Well Stimpy, I too am a diabetic, average build, 5-10, 175. I always have had problems cleaning out since my diagnosis, maybe increase in age has to do with that too? Now sure, but my dr. told me that my kidneys will be less efficient due to my diatetes.. (note: I don't take insulin, I take a pill or two, watch what I eat etc.) I am going to tell her about my mj usage, how it helps control my blood sugar and I will mention this cleaning out to her. She'll tell me, we used to date. She takes good care of me. I will post the answers.
I would sub of course. Maybe call the number on the box and ask about the shelfl-life of your batch?
I've read that the shelf-life for frozen piss is 1 yr. Don't know how true that is.
Good Luck!
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07-21-2008, 05:34 PM #3Senior Member
strange find on erowid
It looks like you're going to clean enough to pass the UA. Just drink maybe 30 ounce of gatorade the morning of the test. Never heard anything about B12 showing as a positive. I really doubt it. Its just a vitamin. Good way to find out if you have a test strip is to drop a tab in a cup and check it with a test strip. I would not sub with what you have. If you could pickup some new stuff you'd be fine. But I think you should be good enough by following a lightened version of the dillution sticky.
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07-21-2008, 06:02 PM #4Senior Member
strange find on erowid
yeah agreed, it doesnt make any sense how a b-12 would give a false yes. everyone who eats meat or takes vits would come up positive. seems to me that they would have alot of really pissed off straight edge people that we would have heard about it by now. not to mention that the UA's look for a specific compound....like THC. I doubt the b-12 is even close to THC. Good luck!
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07-22-2008, 12:16 AM #5OPSenior Member
strange find on erowid
I thought it was weird too, but it is on the page that has all of the false positives, it must be a mistake. I have been using these same vits for ever, it's just I am weirded out by peeople taking so long to clean out and my line undilluted is not really distinct.but then again it isn't with water either. Sluppy I have a mild case also, doctor told me if I lost weight it would improve even more. My a1c is consistiently below 6, but he told me beer is off limits for good. I had taken some avandamet, but he took me off the pills. I had been prescribed lasix untill they figured out what was going on, I started monitoring on the diet and everything is ok now just must not eat sugar loaded crap anymore just rough grainy breads, nothing instant, lots of veggies and lean meats especially salmon, which I do love, but NO beer!! The b12 thing contradicts everything else that is on that site and in fact everything else that I have read so I'm going to disregaurd it.
I just need to get this test done and get my new rig made and tested then I'll feel much better.
STIMPY21
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07-22-2008, 11:37 AM #6Junior Member
strange find on erowid
Most B12 supplements (multi or individual) are cyncocobalamin which is only 2 per cent absorbed by liver. 98 per cent is excreted in urine!!-look for methlycobalamin when using b12. I was fired from GNC for giving customer info on passing drug test with Strip. They will not let you sell detox drinks unless asked for by name. However they carry products as the cost is 5 and they charge 50. 1000 per cent profit!!!!
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07-22-2008, 08:52 PM #7Senior Member
strange find on erowid
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