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07-24-2008, 08:03 AM #1
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People's opinion of the immunization against cervical cancer for girls
Chrissy, you're what's known as a vaccine paranoiac, and that's not going to change. We won't try and change your mind because it's clearly made up. My husband has been on call this week and working 16-hour days, but he'll be back here when his work slows up.
I want to warn others please to not put any medical credence in what Kevin Trudeau says. He is indeed a non-medically trained scam artist. A convicted felon, in fact. He has sold a lot of books pretending to let people in on great medical and healing secrets, and what he's actually doing is attempting to sell people snake oil and his own products. He pretends as if he's communicating inside secrets and much of what he says is common knowledge portrayed as privileged inside information. His sources and facts have been debunked by a number of legitimate, credentialed health care practitioners, and he continues to get away with his scams but is currently under new investigations by the attorneys general in two states. Again, people need to be very wary of what Kevin Trudeau says. He is a convicted felon. His greatest achievement is his wealth as a seller of books and supplements to the uninformed.
One very important correction for you, Chrissy, and then I'll let you continue to believe what you want about other medical info as long as you don't endanger others with misinformation. For every section of your Gardasil adverse events above, by the way, there are documented non-Gardasil-connected reasons for those events. Seizures happened in epileptic patients. Blood clots to patients who were on oral birth control or were smokers and were at high risk for blood clots. Guillain-Barré Syndrome when it was attributable to Gardasil seemed to have happened when that vaccination was combined with other vaccines. People who are interested may receive fair and balanced information about risks and advantages from their physicians and read more about the adverse events at the VAERS Web site, vaers.hhs.gov.
Now, to set this record straight, physicians do not receive bonuses from drug companies every time they write prescriptions. That's a folklore that people who mistrust physicians enjoy believing, particularly Kevin Trudeau, who, as he's making that claim, is attempting to sell you his line of supplements, products and books.
Physicians prescribe drugs according to formularies that are set out by insurance companies. I can only laugh to think how hysterical it'd be if the system worked so that they were incented to write scripts for certain drugs! I'm afraid it doesn't, however. I'd like to invite you to come spend an afternoon with me and the various med students, residents and physicians at Parkland Hospital or to spend a few days shadowing my husband and his practice partners. You'll quickly see that physicians prescribe the drugs that insurance companies will cover. Those are defined in formularies, and the formulary standards pay for the cheapest generic drugs first, with no incentives to prescribing physicians, PAs or nurse practitioners who write the scripts. Insured patients are required by their plans to use the drugs listed in their plan formularies, which simply do not accommodate the most expensive brand-name drugs. Insurance companies monitor prescription drug expenses very closely and dictate, based on Medicare standards, what will and will not be covered. So doctors have to write scripts according to what their patients will be allowed to get by their insurance companies.
Pharmaceutical companies do provide samples to physicians so patients can try some of the newest brand name drugs. And they often provide discount cards or coupons to the patients themselves so that they can afford to try the brand names drugs that they wouldn't otherwise be able to pay for out of pocket. But I assure you that if you spent one hour in any physician's office or hospital, you'd quickly see that they prescribe the drugs that'll be covered and don't receive any sort of incentive for prescribing any of them, whether generics or brand new brand-name medicines. If Dave were online instead of at the hospital tonight, he'd invite you to come and review his books so you could see that there was no incoming incentive money from any drug companies. Most ethical physicians, particularly those in cardiology, who see large amounts of elderly patients, work very hard at remaining independent of any drug company influence so they can make free decisions on what to prescribe for patients according to what the patients can afford.birdgirl73 Reviewed by birdgirl73 on . People's opinion of the immunization against cervical cancer for girls there has been alot of talk in the u.k about the new vaccine being introduced to prevent cervicle cancer, it has caused some controversy as its being offered to girls from the age of 12, and as cervicle cancer is commonly caused by std's many parents feel its wrong to give it to girls so young. i was wondering what people here thought about it? my daughter is 7 this year and when she's 12 i'll probably get it done as i think every girl should have that protection, my daughter may not start Rating: 5[SIZE=\"4\"]\"That best portion of a good man\'s life: his little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and love.\"[/SIZE]
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