Diahashi, I do not troll, it is you that decided to attack Obama, and I decided to defend him. If you had said McCain is psycho from POW camp and is an insane liberal (or conservative) douchebag, I still would have told you that you were out of line. I am a moderate, and above all I would like to see a fair representation of both candidates. You didn't give this, so I pointed it out and said the obvious bias made me sick.

You obviously don't grasp Hypocricy or irony, so let me spell it out for you, ok? McCain and Obama both change their views, but instead of calling it flip flopping and attacking them, I point out that BOTH OF THEM ARE DOING THIS. What sickens me is that you, in your righteous hypocricy, ignore McCains flip-flopping (god I hate that word) and verbally lynch Obama when he does the same thing. Both of them are politicians, and both of them sway with whatever breeze is currently blowing, but to target one and say he is a spinless liberal, while ignoring McCains identical tactics (flipflopping, *shudder*) is the epitome of stupidity, so I pointed this out.

You are insane though if you think I would spend my time defending a republican, especally when you and P4B are doing such a great job of that. I defend Obama because I like him, but my dislike of McCain doesn't blind me like you are implying. If you think I am a hypocrite for not defending McCain, does that mean you defend Obama? If so, you are doing one hell of a job, rofl.

As for Obama and his "180", I cant help but laugh, because while his views might have changed (like a typical politician I might add, same as McCain), he is still fighting for democrats, and if he did a 180 he would be a republican. I would say he did maybe a 45, but as long as he represents the intrests of democrats, and fights republicans, I can forgive him a little meandering and pandering.

And finally, yes, I am aware we are in Iraq, but to assume there is nothing we can do about it is just dumb. My "solution" is to elect a man that wants to get us out of there, hopefully by 09. My solution offers a casuality free enviroment for our troops, and a self governing Iraq. What does yours offer?

Also, Ralph, ignore Diahashis comments, opinion has plenty of room in a debate, especially since we have seen how valid "facts" are *Cough BUSHLIEDABOUTFACTS Cough*. He is so biased that he ignored the facts you presented too, a la "In January, the surge was a Fail. Straight out bad move. Only three of the 18 benchmarks had been met". I didn't even detect a harsh tone from you, only one of disapointment in our leaders and those that continue to follow their flawwed policies. I agree with you, and hope to see more posts from you, maybe then Diahashi will simmer down

Have a good one! :s4: