Quote Originally Posted by ralphbuick
I don't think it's unreasonable to adjust your point of view. The surge has taken nearly twice as long as expected to make any identifiable difference, but I don't hear anyone picking Bush up on this. In January, the surge was a Fail. Straight out bad move. Only three of the 18 benchmarks had been met. And now it's all a success? Please. It's all propaganda, measured by the news channels. America lost the war a long time ago, and is simply fighting to maintain order. Even now, after more than one million Iraqis have died violent deaths as a result of the conflict, you are squabbling over how Obama picks over this? Ridiculous.
The surge was a fail? So I guess that's why we're seeing the dramatic results we see today?

I fail to see your logic. I can agree we should not have gone into Iraq, but we're there and there's nothing that can be changed about that. Even if you're against the war you can't deny the facts and statistics that have shown steady decline since
the surge.

Propaganda from the news channels? I'm not sure if you've noticed but the majority of all news are liberal prone. Even fox news isn't nearly as conservative as it used to be.

1 million violent Iraqi deaths? Evidence please

You've come onto this forum with an obvious angry voice full of bias. Post fact and maybe someone will listen. You'll have to excuse the brashness of this post but it does get a bit irritating seeing people with sub 50 posts come onto the forum seemingly trolling for a fight instead of debating a topic intellectually like it should be.

Fact > Opinion