Quote Originally Posted by blazedtexas
thanks for all the info so far....keep it coming this is really helping me deside on what to get.
If you want bag use as well as whip those two are the best options. If you want to consider whip only the best option <$200 IMO is the Da Buddha. All things considered-performance, reliability, and safety-the Silver Surfer's younger brother can't be beat unless you go for the SSV itself.