Once beautiful plants are starting to look bad.

[chenman07]

thanks guys, here is to hoping this fixes the problem. Will update on it soon.

chenman07 Reviewed by chenman07 on 07-15-2008. Once beautiful plants are starting to look bad. Help! My plants' leaves are starting to wither away and I am not sure what the problem may be. At first only the lower leaves were showing any problematic signs but more and more leaves are wilting and dying off. Anyone have ideas to what my problem is? H=Answer if you grow hydro or aero C=Answer if you grow coco S=Answer if you grow traditional soil L=Answer if you grow soilless other than coco (Promix, Hyponex, SunshineMix) Rating: 5

[chenman07]

what is causing the leaves on two of my plants to wither and die in the "claw" shape?

So far i have 5 plants, two of which are looking pretty bad with claw leaves, two are losing leaves after they spot for a day or so before spreading and killing off the leaf, and one seems to be doing fine.

[stinkyattic]

When the edges are included in the turned-down shape, and not just the tips, that points strongly to either Nitrogen overdose, or insufficient useable root space, or both. In your case, flushing and re-potting into light, airy soil with improved drainage will solve both.

[chenman07]

Ah soil is killing me, i replanted them 2 weeks ago. Do i need to get larger pots already? they are growing in 3 gals right now.

What is the best way to check for plants being root bound without disturbing the plant or hurting the roots much?

There is a hydro shop opening in my town today actually and they sell fox farm ocean mix. Would it be a good idea to switch and if so how do i get rid of the lower quality soil the plants are already in?

I am not sure how they got an exess of N. They only fertilizer I have been giving them has been every other watering with 1tsp per gal of water.

[chenman07]

Also what would you recommend as a good airy soil mix?

My previous soil mix, due to lack of quality premixed soil available at the time, for the last transplant was a mix of 2 parts hummus and manure, 1 part perlite, and 1 part vermiculite.

[stinkyattic]

That soil mix (humus, manure, lighteners) you were using before was great. Your problem, and the solution to it, is explained in post #10.
Also, adding fertilizer when you are already using a pre-ferted soil with an N value of 0.2, you don't know how much N is left in the soil and may have overdosed. But it could just be the rootbound. Please re-read my posts in this thread, because it's explained carefully.

[Weedhound]

Thats' funny.....you said you had not ferted them but in your q and a's you said you did. Which is it?

[Weedhound]

That soil mix (humus, manure, lighteners) you were using before was great. Your problem, and the solution to it, is explained in post #10.
Also, adding fertilizer when you are already using a pre-ferted soil with an N value of 0.2, you don't know how much N is left in the soil and may have overdosed. But it could just be the rootbound. Please re-read my posts in this thread, because it's explained carefully.

I cant really follow this guys posts Stinskter.......yes, no, maybe. Good luck and I'll leave it in your VERY capable hands.

[chenman07]

Thanks i am going to go eat some lunch and go check the bottom layer of soil. What you said makes a lot of sense. I switched to non peat moss soil but can imagine the manure mix would compact down quite a bit.

Weedhound, i had be starting to fertilize but stopped after reading a previous thread a week or so back. My q/a must have not been updated properly. update, my q/a indeed was not properly updated. I am pretty sure i was high and freaking out when I posted this thread with a copy and quick edit of my previously used q/a section. Please excuse any discrepancy.

[Weedhound]

I still am confused....sorry but I'll butt out.....Good luck chenman and you are with the best with Stinky!! :thumbsup: