Quote Originally Posted by dragonrider
I don't think so. First of all, I'm not sure anyone has actually "turned Obama down for the VP spot." It has to be offered in order to be turned down, and I have not heard that the position has been offered to anyone, let alone offered and turned down. Let me know if you have heard otherwise. Pulliing yourself out of the running or saying you don't want it is a different matter from actually turning it down. Who knows why these people may have asked not to be considered or if they were actually being considered in the first place?
Google is your friend. These people were being considered for the VP spot, and these people have said they WOULD NOT accept a nomination.


Virginia Sen. Jim Webb just issued a statement from his Senate office saying that -- "[u]nder no circumstances" -- does he want to be considered as Obama's veep.

"I have not sought and I will not accept any other opportunity," Warner told cheering convention delegates.

ABC News' Teddy Davis and John Santucci Report: Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland (D) was Shermanesque on Tuesday in saying that he would "absolutely not" be Sen. Barack Obama's, D-Ill., running mate even if asked to join the Democratic ticket.

Anyway, I was talking about the rank-and-file Dems, not those who might be consedered for a position. And I don't see many rank-and-file Dems distancing themselves from Obama. They seem pretty enthusiastic. I do see rank-and-file Repubs lacking enthusiams over McCain, but Obama is not having that problem with Dems.
Not All Democrats Want To Ride Obama's Coattails - WSJ.com

Poll: Some Clinton supporters still not embracing Obama - CNN.com

Backlash! 2 million angry Democrats reject Obama? Raise $10 million for Clinton campaign debt, urge her return

And here's something slightly unrelated that should be read and considered when you are considering what "iraqi's want". What people want and what they know is realistically possible are TWO different things:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/17/wo...voices.html?hp

And it was also relatively moderate rank-and-file Dems I was talking about who view the election as relativley positive, with a good upside and only a small downside if McCain were to win. Elected Democrats or very partisan or very left-leaning democrats would probably not see it that way bacause they can't get past their partisanship. But I don't think moderate Dems generally see McCain as a disaster.
I don't think Dems see McCain as a disaster either but I don't think there is strong organized support of Dems behind Obama is there like you suggest. Matter of fact I see it coming down more and more. Honestly it mostly feels like he's hyped up. Like seeing previews for a movie and being majorly let down when you see it.

Honestly I think the Democrats are desperate to get into office and get into power; however I don't believe that the rank and file dems are too happy about Obama being their candidate for commander in chief. Obama is young, full of energy and is expressing IDEALS... note that I say IDEALS.. of young Americans and Americans who rely on the popular News Media to get their research information on their candidates... aka: the ignorant.

I don't use ignorant in a condescending or negative way either. I simply feel that a good portion of people don't understand 'cause and effect'. It's a very simple idea that effects even the most complicated of situations. Being able to have the foresight to determine what the 'cause and effect' are of a suggested idea or plan are one of the great leadership attributes that come about with experience. Something that I think Obama lacks and is very dangerous for any candidate in political office; not just presidential.