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[GreenDestiny]

I'd have to say that it's my mom who is the psychic vampire that influenced me. And the ability sorta passed on to me, and of course I used it for my own twisted enjoyment as much as I could (as much as I thought I could).

But in recent years I've found more peace and I've got most of the dark urges under control. But I believe that equilibrium/balance is the best state of being, with great enlightenment and tranquility there must exist great turmoil and chaos. I've seen the downfalls of too much "good", it usually leads to narrow-minded self righteousness. Trying to keep a balance is a daunting task. Damn me for being a Libra with the freakin scales.... It runs along the same lines as the "split" mind you mentioned, Coelho. I am my own best friend AND worst enemy. Nothing's perfect, that's why we should not strive to make things so; it is the imperfections that define perfection.

I'll try to check out that link later. Sometimes I don't want to develop any abilities... I could easily slip back into my darker half and wreak havoc. I'll have to stabalize the balance of good and bad in me first, hopefully meditation will help with that.

[SunnyD]

Here's a question for you guys

Is it a good or a bad thing to be a Psych Vamp???

I think it would be really cool to be one, but would it be consequently racking up bad karma because you're depleting the people around you?...

[Priincesss]

I'd have to say that it's my mom who is the psychic vampire that influenced me. And the ability sorta passed on to me, and of course I used it for my own twisted enjoyment as much as I could (as much as I thought I could).
.................it is the imperfections that define perfection.

Sorry to hear about your struggles with having a parent be a psychic vamp. and you being one yourself, but your right. it is our imperfectesions that define perfection and we are all perfect the way we are.

This is new to me though because I've only heard of people who are psychic vampires but never knew, so hearing of someone who knows... that experience is definatly new. I hope your meditation helps you though and you continue to maintain control over your urges

Here's a question for you guys

Is it a good or a bad thing to be a Psych Vamp???

I think it would be really cool to be one, but would it be consequently racking up bad karma because you're depleting the people around you?...

At first I didn't think it was really benifitial or terrible either. Im not so sure now after hearing Destiny's struggles with their ability. I used to think it would be pritty cool to be one too and be able to effect people and different ways without them even knowing like all those people you really don't like and have it comming... but ya, definatly a lot of bad karma.. but really it would be your choice to do that or not, although the choice would be hard because you have this ability and you have urges but you also have morals and sympathy.

Im going to go with yes and no. Being a psychic vampire can be either good or bad depending on the way you see it and utilize your abilites.

[SunnyD]

But as it is stated earlier, a lot of psychic vampires have no idea of what they are and what they are doing...

So, in that context, you wouldn't be consciously aware of what you were doing to people, and yet your subconscious would be racking up all of the bad karma for your physical being... Wouldn't that be straight up bad?

I mean you wouldn't even get to enjoy the fact that you consciously know you're sucking the energy from people

[GreenDestiny]

It can work the other way around, you can try to project energy onto a person instead of leeching it away. Like, maybe giving away some of your good energy to help others. Too many things have happened to make be believe I've done it without any intention..... When friends come around me sometimes random lucky things happen to them. But at other times I happen to be the one that brings them random bad luck. Until just this past year my mind/body/spirit has been WAY unbalanced, one friend that was sensitive to psychic powers always referred to me as an "avatar of chaos" because I was just projecting random insanity into my surroundings.

I am the wild card posing as a joker in the deck of life.

All powers can be used for good or bad. If you believe in karma, then it's not necessarily a bad thing to use your powers for selfish reasons. When the universe/environment is trying to rebalance itself you might get shafted, that's just your viewpoint of what needed to be done for balance to be maintained. But sometimes good or bad shit happens and that whole theory of karma and balance just goes all to hell. That's just how I see karma, but I don't believe in it (even though it owes me a great retirement plan!).

[SunnyD]

Karma can sometimes be hard to understand...This is the way I see Karma:

1.) In order to offset any Bad Karma that may be forth coming, you must engage in good Karma

2.) Any bad Karma that you feel may have been dealt in undeserving terms should not be seen as being "shafted" I don't think. I think that any undeserved bad is merely a gift letting you know that something equally good is coming, you just don't know when. Every good person has stories of terrible things that have happened to them, but on the flip side they also have stories of great things that have happened.

3.) Good Karma promotes Good Karma, and Bad Karma promotes Bad Karma. The good and the bad don't equal each other out. If you live the life of a Good citizen you will reap the advantages of the "good" lifestyle. If you live the life of a Bad citizen you will reap the disadvantages of the "bad" lifestyle.

4.) I don't believe that Karma goes to hell, there are merely situations that need to happen to offset other drastic situations that have already happened. This corrolates with point number 2.

That's the way I view Karma, I hope that makes sense, ask more questions if you need more detail.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

Hey guys.. I was just doing some thinking

~I've always been a believer in psychic abilities and experiences like altral projection, clairvoyance (to a point) , telekinesis I don't exactly know why but these possibilities have always attracted me I guess because these abilities would open so many doors and possibilities in this world (at least for me and my spirituality)

some more thoughts

1- when I break it all down , as I see it , we're just energy. Our cells and atoms are made up of , well what ever there made off but that materials just energy. Energy can be morphed and transformed and transfered wouldn't it make sence that we could also manipulate the energy surounding us? Tap into the base of your energy source and utilize that to influence our surroundings? That in my mind makes telekinese logical and possible.

2- Time .. how can you describe time? Many people think of time as in a time period, a straight line, beginning and end we just dont know the beginning and ending point. What if you thought of time like a circle? No being, no end just constant motion, eventually everything will come to an 'end' point where nothing is left but then you continue on in the circle and everything starts over. What if we could peel back the layers of our universe/ demension to reveal portals that can access what we refer to as 'time' and we can travel to different parts of this circle.

3- Atral projection has be experienced by many people or clamed to be experience either by sleep or meditation. I think this can be totally logical. Separating our 'spirit' or part of our main energy source and being able to move around through the world and universe... I think that when this happens your taking some of your energy source to accomplish this, thats why you are left in a meditated, non-coherent state because part of your life force is being taken away. But say you totally separated from your body wouldnt that mean your body would died.. you would be dead by scientific standards and decompose in which the energy you left in your body would eventually return to you/ the universe

4- Science.. many people wouldn't believe in these occurences because it is proven to be impossible by science. Correct me if Im wrong but isn't science a man made noun and adjective.. it is a theory created by mankind to explain the un-explainable. It describes why things happen, like chemicals x and y react to create substance z but science can't explain why exactly things react together or why things are the way they are. What exactly is science anyway? Its just descibed as studying to gain knowledge and truth, so if something can't be scientifically explained just means we don't understand it, that doesn't mean it isn't possible right? Sometimes I wonder how we can put so much faith in science when its just regular people (well really smart people) doing tests and trying to develope theories and reasons to explain something.

5- People are scared. They don't want to believe or even think about possibilities like these because they don't want to admit that there are greater forces in the universe besides ourselves. Theres more to life then getting up, going to work and watching TV. We're afraid because we can't explain these things with our 'science' so we automatically think they aren't possible and continue to live our sheltered lives and dont even try to reach out and understand or even consider different possibilities.. I think us as a species are not living up to our potential. If only we could work together and study and be observant and open minded we could gain so much more insite and theory about our universe and its inner workings

~Well those are just some of the thoughts I had swimming around in my mind.

'what we think we know is only a drop in the sea of knowledge'- as I once read on a website.. although I dont remember which one, this quote describes how I feel too.

If you guys have any thoughts feel free to drop them off, any replies would be nice because I would really like to no everyones thoughts, weither you agree or think Im a total nut-case.. feel free.

1. mind over matter. Mental processes hold the most power over our bodies.

unity is a prerequisite to wielding the power of mind AND body.

The body holds as much power over the physical as the mind does over the mental, but unless they are working together in perfect harmony, both are at a disadvantage.


time is infinite, neither a line nor circular or spherical, but... something.

due to teh nature of infinity, the best example, the best metaphor or symbol, WOULD, however, be a sphere or circle.


i think of it as a multi-faceted spherical spiral that has no edges, sides, or points.

3. astral projection is something i have not directly experienced. i understand it, but have no say one way or the other based on experience, only research and contemplation.

it is the mind, free from the body.


4. science cannot prove something is impossible, it can only prove the conditions in which something IS possible.

People who use science as an excuse not to believe something are just as gullible as someone who will believe anything.


Science is only a means to prove what circumstances are required to make things work.


it can, by no means, disprove anything outside of circumstance...

so that said, the circumstances for scientifically proving that our minds and bodies are equally separate as they are united are nil; it cannot be proven nor can it be disproved by science. only our own experiences will be evidence of anything.


5. fear and love are the two root emotions. everything negative can be traced back to fear, everything positive back to love.

We love the idea of unlimited power, so we fear that we will never have it.


that fear stops us dead in our tracks from attempting to reach for unlimited power. the fear of failure, the fear of proving it isnt possible. the fear of limited power in life drives us to reject the higher possibilities.

[Priincesss]

Sunny D : hmm I enjoyed reading that.. I've never really thought about karma and you have sum really good points

Stoner Shadow Wolf : you also had really good thoughts about this. like how science can only prove how something is possible. You really got me thinking about that and everything else like love and fear being the root emotions.

to all : Thanks for keeping my brain active You all have interesting things to say and I love reading what everyone else thinks about these different points that arrise

[SunnyD]

Why does this discussion remind me so much of the matrix...

In the second movie when Neo finally meets up with the father of the matrix he says that the only problem that has been left unsolved the equation that is the human existance is the way that love functions.

Watch the first and second ones...don't bother watching the third one...in fact...the second one kinda sucks too. Watch it anyways though. Neo kicks ass

Stay Sunny Guys

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

happy to be of service