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    Hey guys.. I was just doing some thinking

    ~I've always been a believer in psychic abilities and experiences like altral projection, clairvoyance (to a point) , telekinesis I don't exactly know why but these possibilities have always attracted me I guess because these abilities would open so many doors and possibilities in this world (at least for me and my spirituality)

    some more thoughts

    1- when I break it all down , as I see it , we're just energy. Our cells and atoms are made up of , well what ever there made off but that materials just energy. Energy can be morphed and transformed and transfered wouldn't it make sence that we could also manipulate the energy surounding us? Tap into the base of your energy source and utilize that to influence our surroundings? That in my mind makes telekinese logical and possible.

    2- Time .. how can you describe time? Many people think of time as in a time period, a straight line, beginning and end we just dont know the beginning and ending point. What if you thought of time like a circle? No being, no end just constant motion, eventually everything will come to an 'end' point where nothing is left but then you continue on in the circle and everything starts over. What if we could peel back the layers of our universe/ demension to reveal portals that can access what we refer to as 'time' and we can travel to different parts of this circle.

    3- Atral projection has be experienced by many people or clamed to be experience either by sleep or meditation. I think this can be totally logical. Separating our 'spirit' or part of our main energy source and being able to move around through the world and universe... I think that when this happens your taking some of your energy source to accomplish this, thats why you are left in a meditated, non-coherent state because part of your life force is being taken away. But say you totally separated from your body wouldnt that mean your body would died.. you would be dead by scientific standards and decompose in which the energy you left in your body would eventually return to you/ the universe

    4- Science.. many people wouldn't believe in these occurences because it is proven to be impossible by science. Correct me if Im wrong but isn't science a man made noun and adjective.. it is a theory created by mankind to explain the un-explainable. It describes why things happen, like chemicals x and y react to create substance z but science can't explain why exactly things react together or why things are the way they are. What exactly is science anyway? Its just descibed as studying to gain knowledge and truth, so if something can't be scientifically explained just means we don't understand it, that doesn't mean it isn't possible right? Sometimes I wonder how we can put so much faith in science when its just regular people (well really smart people) doing tests and trying to develope theories and reasons to explain something.

    5- People are scared. They don't want to believe or even think about possibilities like these because they don't want to admit that there are greater forces in the universe besides ourselves. Theres more to life then getting up, going to work and watching TV. We're afraid because we can't explain these things with our 'science' so we automatically think they aren't possible and continue to live our sheltered lives and dont even try to reach out and understand or even consider different possibilities.. I think us as a species are not living up to our potential. If only we could work together and study and be observant and open minded we could gain so much more insite and theory about our universe and its inner workings

    ~Well those are just some of the thoughts I had swimming around in my mind.

    'what we think we know is only a drop in the sea of knowledge'- as I once read on a website.. although I dont remember which one, this quote describes how I feel too.

    If you guys have any thoughts feel free to drop them off, any replies would be nice because I would really like to no everyones thoughts, weither you agree or think Im a total nut-case.. feel free.
    Priincesss Reviewed by Priincesss on . My thoughts, leave yours Hey guys.. I was just doing some thinking ~I've always been a believer in psychic abilities and experiences like altral projection, clairvoyance (to a point) , telekinesis I don't exactly know why but these possibilities have always attracted me I guess because these abilities would open so many doors and possibilities in this world (at least for me and my spirituality) some more thoughts 1- when I break it all down , as I see it , we're just energy. Our cells and atoms are made up of Rating: 5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Priincesss

    4- Science.. many people wouldn't believe in these occurences because it is proven to be impossible by science. Correct me if Im wrong but isn't science a man made noun and adjective.. it is a theory created by mankind to explain the un-explainable. It describes why things happen, like chemicals x and y react to create substance z but science can't explain why exactly things react together or why things are the way they are. What exactly is science anyway? Its just descibed as studying to gain knowledge and truth, so if something can't be scientifically explained just means we don't understand it, that doesn't mean it isn't possible right? Sometimes I wonder how we can put so much faith in science when its just regular people (well really smart people) doing tests and trying to develope theories and reasons to explain something.
    I love science because most scientists are very curious about how the world actually is and know they are still in the dark about the quantum world. This quote sums it up for me.

    "The essential point in science is not a complicated mathematical formalism or a ritualized experimentation. Rather the heart of science is a kind of shrewd honesty that springs from really wanting to know what the hell is going on!" Saul-Paul Sirag

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhouncy
    "The essential point in science is not a complicated mathematical formalism or a ritualized experimentation. Rather the heart of science is a kind of shrewd honesty that springs from really wanting to know what the hell is going on!" Saul-Paul Sirag
    hmm touchee, never looked at it from that angle.. thanks
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    I believe that all matter is somehow connected, be it on a quantum level, or some other kind of way that is immeasurable. Discovering how everything is connected so that we can manipulate distant objects is like trying to learn something that cannot be directly studied. It's a trial and error effort of figuring out how to astral project or use telekinesis.

    Then again we have our own magnetic fields around our bodies, perhaps we need to learn how to extend it and concentrate that energy to affect other objects.

    To me, time is a non-linear cycle, and so is space. Might as well just say space-time is a loop. Life/death, big bang/big crunch.

    Breaking things down further, I don't really believe in matter. Some scientists believe that once we split apart enough particles there will be nothing left except "strings" of energy. That'd be cool as hell to discover, but I think it goes on forever as being smaller and smaller particles... infinitely small. The universe is mostly empty, even solid matter is mostly empty, but the energy has to be somewhere.... I think it's a kind of energy that we have no way to measure..... such as our life force or the soul. The matter that things seem to be made of is more like a physical waveform expression of that energy, like, a hologram.

    Don't listen to me, I've been sober for way too long.

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    Princess, i agree with everything you said... I have a bit of psychic abilities, mainly precognition... so i know they are actually true, and if our science does not recognize it is only because our science cant (or dont want) understand it...
    And BTW its very nice to know that there is someone else who thinks like me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenDestiny
    I believe that all matter is somehow connected, be it on a quantum level, or some other kind of way that is immeasurable. Discovering how everything is connected so that we can manipulate distant objects is like trying to learn something that cannot be directly studied. It's a trial and error effort of figuring out how to astral project or use telekinesis.

    Then again we have our own magnetic fields around our bodies, perhaps we need to learn how to extend it and concentrate that energy to affect other objects.

    To me, time is a non-linear cycle, and so is space. Might as well just say space-time is a loop. Life/death, big bang/big crunch.

    Breaking things down further, I don't really believe in matter. Some scientists believe that once we split apart enough particles there will be nothing left except "strings" of energy. That'd be cool as hell to discover, but I think it goes on forever as being smaller and smaller particles... infinitely small. The universe is mostly empty, even solid matter is mostly empty, but the energy has to be somewhere.... I think it's a kind of energy that we have no way to measure..... such as our life force or the soul. The matter that things seem to be made of is more like a physical waveform expression of that energy, like, a hologram.

    Don't listen to me, I've been sober for way too long.
    I totally agree, like our own magnetic fields and space time loop and energy forces but Ive never thought of it like a hologram but I like that idea. Well thought out thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coelho
    Princess, i agree with everything you said... I have a bit of psychic abilities, mainly precognition... so i know they are actually true, and if our science does not recognize it is only because our science cant (or dont want) understand it...
    And BTW its very nice to know that there is someone else who thinks like me...
    Really? Thats so cool! I bet it must be frustrating thought when science is telling you what your seeing or hearing is all in your head and just out to prove you wrong but really they don't fully understand because they don't have that ability. But thats really cool.. and don't worry, I gotcha back we'll prove those skeptics wrong some day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Priincesss
    Really? Thats so cool! I bet it must be frustrating thought when science is telling you what your seeing or hearing is all in your head and just out to prove you wrong but really they don't fully understand because they don't have that ability. But thats really cool.. and don't worry, I gotcha back we'll prove those skeptics wrong some day.
    Well... i think the most interesting of it all is that i also am a scientist (physicist)... and as more i learned about science, more i noticed how limited it was, and how science (and even logic and reason) are only particular view points, and not the ultimate truth... (if really there is such thing)... so, after learning science i become more "un-scientific" and more open to other views of things besides the one given by the science. What was very good, cause i could then learn things that did make me possible understand all this unusual things that happened, not only with me, but with anyone with psychic abilities.
    But unfortunately i dont think it could be possible to convince the skeptics (or anyone btw) that they are wrong... the hardest thing is to convince anyone that their view points are wrong, and that they lived mistaken their entire lifes... so i let them believe whatever they wish... cause i also wouldnt like that anyone tried convince me of anything.
    And in the particular case of the skeptics, the case is even harder, cause even if they criticise the religion, they are themselves the most fervourous followers of their own religion, the skepticism (and the unquestionable belief that science is the ultimate truth)... and so they behave like religious fanatics, that couldnt never be convinced that they can be wrong, and that try to bring everybody else to their own religion...

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    coelho: I guess your right on that one. That your can't convince people they are wrong.. if they tried to convince me I was wrong.. well lets say it would be a challenge

    Thats interesting that your also a scientist and can see the well problems shall you.. from both sides, the science/logic view and from your experience and you can compare data and information and whatnot.

    I was also wondering.. if its not to personal for you to discuss.. did you always have psychic abilities? Or did you have to develope them from scratch? Id love to hear some of you experiences if its not to personal or invading.. but if it thats perfectly alright and Id understand completly.
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    Well... my "psychic" experiences arent something secret... in fact, i like very much to talk about them... the biggest problem is to find anyone willing to hear about it... so be warned... maybe you will hear (or rather read) more than you wished...

    I started small... usually the precognitions i had were not very unusual, and could be regarded as "coincidences"... like, suddenly, without any reason i would think "what if the phone rang now?", just to hear it ringing some seconds later... there were lots of things like this, but as i was very young and didnt paid much attention to such things, they were regarded as coincidences... even if they were more usual than if they were only coincidences.

    Besides this, the only other "psychic" ability i had was to become spontaneously lucid in my dreams... even as a child i had enough sense to recognize when what i was living was too weird to be "real" and thus i was dreaming... also, im almost sure i had tons of OOBEs (out-of-body-experiences) when a child, but i regarded them as dreams.

    When i was about 18 i started to learn about how to induce OOBEs and how to meditate (both are very related). And then, my abilities were increased several fold. The precognitions become more usual, to the point i would be awed by them... for example... once i was in the bus, it shaked a bit (the road had some holes), i almost hit my head against the window, and thought "what if i had actually hit my head against the window and smashed it?"
    Some minutes after it (maybe 20-30) i heard a loud crash! Someone at the road had thrown a stone against the bus (dont know why), and it actually smashed one of its windows...

    There were several other events like this one... and besides this ones, there were lots of "minor" ones, like, i would be listening the radio, then would feel an "urge" to change the station, only to discover that some favourite song of mine had started to play at other station...

    I kept practicing meditation, and even if i never had a complete wake-induced-OOBE, i had several sleep-induced ones, but my skeptic side never could regard them as "real", but only as very lucid dreams... anyway, the practice of meditation gave my mind a very good ability to concentrate, and also opened it even more to this "psychic" influences...

    Some years later, at 21, i started to smoke, and then my abilities had also an increase. I noticed that weed helped a LOT to concentrate and to empty my mind (a thing i never had completly accomplished before smoking)... also, i noticed that when i was VERY stoned i could hear things that people seemed to have said... like... i would look to someone and it would seems like i had heard this someone saying something very silently, like mumbling... but i couldnt discern if the person actually had said something or not... i know it could be only some effect of being high, but i think it could be a bit of clariaudience.

    Also, smoking gave me a greater control over my dreams... it became easier to me to became lucid during a dream... also, as it helped me to keep my mind empty, i noticed my precognitive abilities increased even more...

    Besides this, i noticed when i was stoned i could somehow "feel" the peoples intentions... not their thoughts exactly... but i could say when they were lying, or hidding something, or being untruthful, things like this...

    In fact, i could say that smoking was by far the thing that most increased this abilities... unfortunately it also scrambled my memory a bit, so the things that happened after i started to smoke cant be remembered as orderly as the things that happened before... so i cant give a history of its developements.

    Then i started to read more about this subjects. I did read lots of things about OOBEs, altered states of consciousness, the Castanedas books, something about occult, and could make a picture of all this in my mind. Also, reading this all increased even more what i could do, and gave me lots of new ideas to experiment.

    During some time i tried to foresee the lottery numbers... i could foresee mostly the first one, sometimes the two first ones... but the thrill of being right was enough to hinder my sucesses, and so i wasnt able to foresee correctly more than 3 numbers... anyway, i stopped to try this, cause it wouldnt be nice to use this "powers" in such materialistic ways.

    Anyway... today my situation is: i usually dream about many things (if not all) that will happen with me during the day. Most unusual things that happens with me are dreamed about before they happen. I usually know how many new emails ive got, before opening my mail. I also usually can feel (with a large degree of sureness) who is calling, when the phone starts to ring. I can shut up the neighbourhood cats only by focusing my minds attention in them (its very useful at the late night). I can read peoples intentions and emotions, with a nice degree of sureness. I am regarded as very lucky. I also can "feel" the outcome of many things... and this list could go on and on... but ive talked more about myself than i think its appropriate... not by concerns of secrecy... but for avoid being too "me me me"... cause self-importance is one of the greatest obstacles in being a psychic, and i wouldnt like to indulge in it...

    So, in resume, i had a bit of psychic abilities, and after some training i improved them greatly, and also got some new ones.
    I think anyone can have this abilities. Im sure our minds are capable to do more things than we think. Then only problem is we usually are too busy with other things to pay attention to our "psychic" abilities.

    Anyway, if you want to train them, i would suggest you to learn how to meditate. How to empty your mind, and how to focus your concentration. It is by far the most useful thing. Everything else comes after it.

    There are also some sites that teach other things, like psychokinesis, telepathy, etc... also, there are books that helps to understand this things... if you want nice things to read, just say so, and i can give you links to all this stuff.
    Also, if you had any question about anything i described, of anything about anything, just ask! Ill be glad to answer you. :thumbsup:

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    Awesome experiences, share more if you got them. Talking about freaky things like that is something I'm pretty interested in.

    I've had dozens of strange coincidences too through my life. I can't remember too many in great detail. When I was maybe in my mid-teens, I had a TV that got messed up after a thunderstorm and took it to a shop to be repaired. They kept it for a very long time never giving me any updates about when it would be fixed. Early one morning while it was still dark I suddenly woke up and saw a TV floating above me, and it slowly vanished. I laid there awake thinking that was one helluva weird thing to hallucinate..... and later that day the repair shop called me to say that the TV was fixed!

    Back when I still had some shreds of faith left in the Christian god, I asked god to ease my dad's suffering and take him away on Christmas (there was no possible way for him to get better)... then later that month at around 10pm on Christmas eve, he died. After I stopped believing in religion I started to wonder if it was my own doing for thinking about it.

    I've had a terrible time on the receiving end of psychic phenomenon, but I consider myself to be more of a transmitter. People around me will say things or talk about stuff that I'm thinking about.... Sometimes so much, that I don't have to do any talking because they do it for me. Once in a while my spider-senses start to tingle and I know something's gonna happen but never sure what it will be until it does. I'm sometimes sensitive to someone's negative energy, or when I encounter a "psychic-vampire" that's trying to leech energy from people.

    Ever heard of a "contact buzz"? Like when you get stoned, but other sober people around you get totally retarded for no reason. It's like you're projecting the stoned psychic vibe into their brains, it's pretty entertaining when it happens. I've also noticed a lot more weird coincidences to happen when I'm stoned, or just lots of weird random shit happens.

    As for auditory hallucinations, if I let my mind wander as if in a day dream, I'll sometimes hear stuff. Not able to tell if weed enhances this for me or not. When I was younger I could sometimes think about a song so much that I could start to hear it as if I was listening to headphones.

    Meditation is harder than it seems, for me anyways. My mind races with thoughts and has many things goin on at once it's so hard to clear it. I don't practice often which is one of my main problems. Whenever I try to meditate while stoned it seems I've always got the wrong kind to smoke, those damn hybrids and mostly sativa strains that get my mind racing. I know if I can someday master simple meditation then my energy will be balanced so that I can receive and transmit forms of psychic energy more efficiently.

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