ok guys id be happy to inform and tell all the ppl reading how all theese different methods work first off iwould never make oil thats for sure its dangerous for one thing and another is once finished thereis still and always will be alcohol init still this is a concern for me so my sugestion is for the time being i would probably make hash but with a tumbler i made my own for maybe 50 bucks i live in canada so thats gotta be cheap to everyone else so if u want let me know and ill give u detailed instuctions on how to build one yourself i also have bought a set of bubblw bags i bought the 7 bag system 20 gallon size because i have an everlasting amount of straight trim leaves and stuff i mean they did cost me alot i think it was like 840 dollars but so far for the quality and stuff most definitly worth it who ever said it will take you many tries to perfect it im a person who likes the finer things so in my opinion very worth it if u have the leaf and money to do so if u want message me or leave a reply to this and ill try to get back to you with a good formula for making ice hash and now after buying and using the bags ive found other ways to do it with household items and results will be very close to the same let me now and ill fill you in on the proper procedures on making some killer stuff from your trim