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07-08-2008, 10:23 PM #1OPSenior Member
Pickens Plan
I've seen this commercial on t.v. and found this interesting. Nice to see somebody really spell things out instead of the "change" b.s. that comes from BOTH candidates!
Check it out....sounds like there's more to come too!:thumbsup:
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Have a good one!:s4:Psycho4Bud Reviewed by Psycho4Bud on . Pickens Plan I've seen this commercial on t.v. and found this interesting. Nice to see somebody really spell things out instead of the "change" b.s. that comes from BOTH candidates! Check it out....sounds like there's more to come too!:thumbsup: PickensPlan Have a good one!:s4: Rating: 5
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07-08-2008, 11:56 PM #2Senior Member
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Yeah but his plan doesn't really do anything for fossil fuels. The natural gas helps but its a finite resource. Solar I think is the best bet but guess who owns all the patents for solar generators? Big oil. So the first thing this country needs to do is do the same thing the pharmecuetical companies had to do. There patents are only good for 5 years. They need to do the same thing with ALL patents. Then maybe this country can move forward.
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07-09-2008, 12:19 AM #3Senior Member
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I like it and this is coming from one of the biggest oilman out there. I have solar panels up on my roof and I like the fact that I can go outside look at my meter and see it spin backward or not even moving at all. Me and wife are planning to install a residental wind tower on our land next year so we dont have to have any power coming in from the power company.:rasta::rastasmoke:
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07-09-2008, 02:11 AM #4Senior Member
Pickens Plan
I would love to put a water wheel in the river to generate power but the masters of the universe won't allow me to.
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07-09-2008, 02:17 AM #5OPSenior Member
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Here's a lil' story on wind power.....here we go again:
Unexpected Downside of Wind Power
The only thing that "worries" me about this method is the fact that this is set up in tornado allie. Imagine 50 or more of these props heading for a town like gigantic frisbees! Check out the size of them blades as compared to the houses!!
Have a good one!:s4:
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07-09-2008, 02:34 AM #6OPSenior Member
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OOPS...forgot the pic.:bigsmoke:
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07-09-2008, 02:41 AM #7Senior Member
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And the props on those things are HUGE.
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07-09-2008, 03:05 PM #8OPSenior Member
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EXACTLY.....now imagine a F4 or F5 ripping through one of them wind farms. I wonder how far one of them things would travel?
Have a good one!:s4:
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07-09-2008, 05:27 PM #9Senior Member
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Maybe if I was lucky it would blow one of those into my backyard.
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07-09-2008, 06:22 PM #10Senior Member
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It's good to see an oil man show a little vision. Wind is going to be one of the important energy resources of our future. If oil and energy companies want to have a future they need to get on board.
I live near the Altamont wind farm. It's a great asset and has been providing clean power here for about 30 years. It was a surprising and diasppointing revelation a few years back when they started to realize how many hawks and other birds get killed by the turbines. Since then they have been working with new turbine designs that will supposedly reduce bird kills. And in the future more attention should be paid to siting these things --- these are all along the ridge lines of the Altamont pass, and the birds like to cruise the thermal updrafts there.
Every new power source is going to have unintended consequences.
With wind, one unintended consequence is bird kills, which is something they are now aware of and are working to fix. The other is P4B's Whirling Blades of Death slicing their way through Tornado Alley.
The other great renewable source of electricity that the country has been using since the 30's is the hydroelectric dam, which has the unintended consequence of killing fish --- some of those dams will have to come down and others be redesigned, or we will have more of our Pacific Coast salmon runs go extinct.
Ethanol has had the unintended consequence of spiking food prices. This technology is still in its infancy and is still being reengineered to really work. Food crops are not appropriate feedstocks for ethanol and methane disgesters. Soon the technology to digest cellulose will revolutionize this technology, and we'll be able to turn a lot of agricultural waste into fuel.
Oil has the inintended consequences of air pollution, smog, global climate change, catastrophic oil spills, massive trade imbalances, the geopolitical nightmare of funding our enemies, and the fact that it is running out. That one is going to be hard to solve.
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