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07-08-2008, 08:29 PM #1
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Biofuels 'causing food price rises'
"So your hoping that everyone decides to give up beef? I can't see that one happening EVER!"
I am not hoping anything of everyone. All i am sure of is the greatest change i can help see happen, begins with myself. I have chosen not to eat beef because of these environmental issues. Its good to lead by example of action, and not just words.
Really all it would take for people to slowly switch off of their beef 'needs' is to make the decision that the whole is more important than the self. Its not impossible! Only unlikely.
It could be perfect though because it would best happen not all at once. The earth and land and people would need to adapt to this lifestyle change. With planning and forethought it would improve the lives of many people on earth.allrollsin21 Reviewed by allrollsin21 on . Biofuels 'causing food price rises' Biofuels 'causing food price rises' World leaders will meet next week to discuss food prices in developing countries Biofuels have triggered a 75 per cent increase in world food prices, according to a leaked confidential report from the World Bank. The report's author, a senior economist at the bank, said that contrary to claims by the United States government, increased demand from India and China had not been the cause of rising food prices. "Rapid income growth in developing Rating: 5
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07-08-2008, 09:27 PM #2
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Biofuels 'causing food price rises'
so since clinton left office this country has gone to shit 10 fold faster.
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
it was under the republicans that gas prices went up
its under the republicans that medical cost and care has gone up in price
its the republicans that held congress senate and executive office from 2000-2006
since republicans have been in office taxes have gone up for every person i know
can blame republicans for the lack of help for american citizens and the hurricaine katrina
its the republicans, its the republicans oh wait its the dems too, OH WAIT ITS BOTH
it aint just the dems its both dems and republicans in bed with eachother
p4b all you ever do is blame dems,
and thats the problem everything is polarized in this country
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07-08-2008, 10:18 PM #3
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Biofuels 'causing food price rises'
VERY cool but I can't see either myself or the rest of the U.S. following your lead on this one. I was raised on meat, potatoes and gravy; I think this old Norwegians body would go into shock without it.
Originally Posted by allrollsin21
And what did Clinton do to help with ANY of the problems we face today? What did he do to further research into alternative fuels? What action did he take to make sure Bin Laden was either in a prison or dead? Nice how he cut off the vets medical benifits at the age of 65 instead of the free health care for life for them and their spouses that they were entitled to! What a guy.....at least in Monica's eyes.
Originally Posted by texas grass

Blaming dems? NO to extra drilling, NO to nuclear power....what more can be said accept for their great concept that the fed needs to babysit everyone instead of letting people make personal decisions for themselves. If it's bad for your health or MAYBE someone elses it's bad for all! And this is the party that people are banking on for legalizing marijuana? Tell that to the cigarette or liquor industry.
By the way, republicans aren't much better but it's that "better of the two evils" thing.:thumbsup:
Have a good one!:s4:
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07-09-2008, 12:28 AM #4
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Biofuels 'causing food price rises'
*brain aneurysm*
GOD DAMNIT YOU PEOPLE!!!! ARGGHHHH!!!!
There IS no LESSER of TWO EVILS!!! THEY'RE BOTH FUCKING EVIL AND YOU KNOW IT!
I DEMAND INDEPENDENCE REIGN AGAIN! FUCK PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS, FUCK CONGRESS BE FREE. FOR GOD'S SAKE TAKE FREEDOM IN YOUR HANDS AND RIP IT FROM THE POWERS THAT BE!!!!! STOP WAITING AROUND FOR FREEDOM TO BE GIVEN TO YOU!!! IT WONT HAPPEN!!!
Death is SO MUCH better right now than a presidential election! At least THEN there is freedom! FUCK IT! JUST FUCK IT!
You're all acting like babies, fighting over who is better, mommy or daddy, when they are both abusive fuckers who deserve to be reported to child services.
RUN AWAY, BE DEFIANT! Stop sucking the teat of dependence and stop supporting this god awful country.
You're all so absorbed by the rules of the game that you cannot look to see that the game itself is raping us all.
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07-09-2008, 12:46 AM #5
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Biofuels 'causing food price rises'
ah- yeah... sorry about all that.... i didnt meaqn to come off as such a pissant and such, but at the same time you gotta realize this stuff needs to be said... people need to hear it. i dont want to be an asshole about it, but if im not, no one will listen anyways! XD either way uh... i'll try to avoid the topic for now.
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07-09-2008, 01:09 AM #6
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Biofuels 'causing food price rises'
The news that the demand for biofuels is causing increased food prices comes as no suprise.
Any fool can do the simple math needed to understand that more demand for a limited product increases it's value and price.
Hydrogen cell fuel technology and nuclear power stations to provide electricity are the future.
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07-09-2008, 01:11 AM #7
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Biofuels 'causing food price rises'
good idea
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07-09-2008, 02:13 AM #8
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Biofuels 'causing food price rises'
it's so nice for this dirty old man to think that there might actually be some sweet young thing thinking about me as she lays in her bed at night.

individual sacrifice is all fine and dandy, but it must be by choice, not mandated by the state. we have been given scapegoats for decades and have naively drank the kool-aid, thinking it to be our patriotic duty. immigrants, communists, big business, and finally the people themselves; all scapegoats and all to mask the great con that is government.
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
the aim of the bureaucrat is to expand his power base and to spawn other bureaucrats to do his bidding. they, in turn, do the exact same thing and on and on, thus is our massive federal bureaucracy born. so many little political animals to vie for their own slice of an ever dwindling pie. each day a new emergency to frighten the citizenry, another chance for those animals to steal a little more power for themselves from the people they are sworn to protect. our safety is an illusion, our control over the government is an illusion, our rights are dwindling and soon our freedom may be only an illusion.
believing that people are capable of standing on their own two feet and making rational decisions for themselves, i am often considered an arch conservative or heartless neocon (hell, i ain't even sure what a freakin' neocon is). it seems rather silly that a life long anarcho-communalist should be seen as such, but that's just the way things are these days. i look around and see a world full of children, scared to grow up and take responsibility and all too willing to allow governments to take away that responsibility. with that responsibility flies our freedom to choose our own destinies.
well, it appears i've gone off on another small rant. it was probably completely off topic too.
how many folks do you really think do know it? we are all slowly becoming anarchists in training after being forced to endure a series of thieves, philanderers, imbeciles and frauds. greatness frightens us far too much to hope that there will ever be a truly great man in the oval office again.
Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf
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07-09-2008, 02:45 AM #9
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Biofuels 'causing food price rises'
Honestly? i think everyone is aware of it, but not everyone is willing to admit it. the whole fool's pride thing; they are too ashamed of having supported the whole system to admit that the system could be wrong, to try to save their foolish pride.
i really regret the liberal use of the word "fuck" in that post
:sorry1:
but in any case, yeah, i think more people are aware of more than they let on, but aren't willing to admit it for their own reasons, be it foolish pride, hope, or loss thereof (hope).
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07-09-2008, 04:09 AM #10
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Biofuels 'causing food price rises'
Heheh... yeah, just follow the money, it goes way up past Dems and Reps, they are just two flavours from the same shitfactory we call capitalism.... world bank, federal reserve, irs, etc....
Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf
Kinda funny that we're given the choices for whom to vote for, we don't get to ultimately pick who's on the ballot, nor do we get to mark an answer that says "hey this system of government is fux0red let's have some new shit to choose from". Ted Kaczynski was right about one thing, we need revolution instead of reformation but to get that the whole system would have to come crumbling down...
Eh, well I agree that biofuel at the moment doesn't have a great impact on the economy, but all that corn and soy should be used to make the fuel instead of pacifying our hunger for real food. GMO plants to make biofuel would be acceptable to me, but not for eating or feeding animals.
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