REALLY?!?! still.....!?!?!

[SnSstealth]

lol...the church is struggling...the AC is keeping 76-78, but humidity kepps getting under 50%...i think they will all make it...just fighting me:greenthumb:
whiskeytango

SnSstealth Reviewed by SnSstealth on 07-08-2008. REALLY?!?! still.....!?!?! seriously?...what the hell man...no nutes added...started in LOW nute seed starter...transplanted to FFoF...tap is 6.7 runoff 6.8-6.9...temp 79 humidity 60%...no pests..and 2 of the plants have almost NO issues...others, (church) look like almost all the leaves are yellowing...please, someone...what the hell is going on here? could the portable AC be doing anything? this happened last time...but those seeds started in FFoF...these are still growing though...they didnt fry like the second Rating: 5

[SnSstealth]

ok...i guess they arent getting worse...but are they getting better? temps up to 80...let em get DRY then watered them with their first nutes yesterday afternoon...humidity is at around 50-60..and ph runoff was 6.9...maybe the 24/0 cycle with these LEDs? too much? dunno man,..this shit is getting old...lol
whiskeytango

[GreenLeaf420]

CHURCH is very very Temperamental to NUTES in the beginning. After 2 months you can throw anything @ them.

I figured that out the hard way!!!!

That FFOF Is some-------- Well I should not say it-----so I have had terrible luck with it. I spoke with the head of Hydro Farm a Women Kathy (NUTE LOCK OUT) big issues with the soil and growers always assume that it is a deficiency. I had a brochure I have to find and it states this. Use the FF Nutes solutions in other soils then theirs but for those that don't want to add nutrients use the FF soil line. That was a FF flier I was reading @ the HYDRO shop...

In My Experience I just did not have any Luck with FF soils... Your other plants are doing well they have to handle Nutrients better then the church...

Good Luck GL

You will get it under control. When I put the church in the FFOF it looked exactly the same.... Took about 2-3 weeks to fully turn around back to Green...

[SnSstealth]

thanks GL! I am SOOOO over this...think I am done with the FFoF...I just cant get them to bounce back all the way!...but they still growing at least:jointsmile:
whiskeytango

the pic with the temp in it is the church

[stinkyattic]

They still look too wet. If you ever do use FFOF again, knowing that you run cool and water heavily, add perlite. It is good for BOTH conditions.

[SnSstealth]

thanks stinks!! should i let them dry out more then before watering? they were dry to about 1/4in down before i watered....
WT

[stinkyattic]

That's not dry enough. You have to gauge by picking up the pot and feeling its weight- usually if you feel a light pot that actually needs water, it will be dry nearly a full finger length. I'd drill 1/2" holes in the SIDES of those pots if you are having a difficult time getting them to use water fast enough in your conditions, since it's too late to add perlite. They are locked out and stunted because the roots are suffocating.

[SnSstealth]

yes ma'am:thumbsup: thanks1
WT

[TheMetal1]

they were dry to about 1/4in down before i watered....
WT

I'm no expert, but if only 1/4 inch of the soil is dry, that leaves a lot of moist soil remaining in the container. Well, unless your container is only 1" deep :jointsmile:. I believe the purpose of drying the majority of the soil out, is to encourage the roots to grow in search of fresh water. So, when they say "wet/dry cycle," it really means wet them FULLY... and dry them until they are practically BEGGING for water. I've read people watering when it is dry down to their first or second knuckle, but depending on the container size that may not be an adequate indicator. It also seems to be a major disruption of the soil environment (at least when my sausage fingers did it :rasta. Weight will be a very good indicator, and as the containers become larger the weight difference will be easier to recognize.
Hope that helps!
Stay and Keep :jointsmile:

Edit: Always a day late and a dollar short... haha :jointsmile:
At least I didn't say the exact opposite of what Stinky suggested. :thumbsup: Which would be hard considering I base much of my advice on what I have read from her tutorials and Sticky's... because... well... HER SHIT WORKS!!

[SnSstealth]

thanks metal! makes sense......:greenthumb:
whiskeytango