i put them under my poarch so they recive 12/12 light. im starting 12/12 now so it stays small. i dont leave them under my poarch all night. once it turns dark out i take them out from under my poarch so they dont die and actually become limp. im not a "play grower" i know what im doing. just goot to hear feed back on my babies. heres some pics of it under the sun today, not last night