XCrispi, SnStealth, Weedhound, anyone who trains working dogs...

[stinkyattic]

Heya guys! Looks like in the next year or 2 I'm going to be ready to get a new bully, my first one from a breeder, not a shelter... I've got a breed and bloodline picked out- Alapaha Blueblood from CRK lines (better start saving my pennies now, ouch). That kennel looks like the real deal, gorgeous animals, and everyone else seems to be breeding off their bloodline. I'm hoping to train a real working dog and wanted some input into the pros and cons of weight pull vs. protection/ring sport/schutzhund from an owner's point of view. Any of you guys ever train for those types of competitions? Observations? Comments? There's no feral hogs up in NE so boar hunting is out, lol! Bummer...

Is this guy the most amazing bully ever or what? Stunning!
That's CRK's Metallica and he's a perfect example of what I am looking for. Look at that BEEF!

stinkyattic Reviewed by stinkyattic on 06-27-2008. XCrispi, SnStealth, Weedhound, anyone who trains working dogs... Heya guys! Looks like in the next year or 2 I'm going to be ready to get a new bully, my first one from a breeder, not a shelter... I've got a breed and bloodline picked out- Alapaha Blueblood from CRK lines (better start saving my pennies now, ouch). That kennel looks like the real deal, gorgeous animals, and everyone else seems to be breeding off their bloodline. I'm hoping to train a real working dog and wanted some input into the pros and cons of weight pull vs. protection/ring Rating: 5

[Weedhound]

Stinky I couldn't train a dog to sit if it went ahead and read the training manuel all on it's own. Stealth would be my first thought here.

Second.....let me study this pull competition thing before I make any comments. I look at that dog....as beautiful as he is......as one big genetic issue. I'm speaking strictly of the breed here......not that particular dog. My very first thought.....cruciate ligaments but that's just off the top. Those short straight legs are BORN for knee problems.

can you tell me exactly what breed that is?

[stinkyattic]

Alapaha Blueblood, one of the actual WORKING breeds of bullies. That kennel screens heavily for knee, hip, and elbow problems. Totally different than English bulldogs, that are known for being a complete genetic disaster in every possible way, right down to the inability to fuck without assistance.

Here's the writeup on my favorite dog site:
Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog by Bulldog Information

[illnillinois]

Hey stinky, my brother is the dog whisper.. He could train a dog to be a cat..

Im going to email him your post and ask him if he wouldn't mind emailing you.. Hes a cool cat.. He trains ALL animals done to horses..

He trains for basic behavior, service dogs, and specialty purposes..

[stinkyattic]

Cool. I have a couple training projects for Patsy, the most important being better voice control off leash. I know she isn't deaf, but she is a total flake about responding to her name. I think it has a lot to do with being a stray so whatever her name used to be, no one knows, and she got the name Patsy only in December. I am trying to work on that, but so far I can only get her to come when she is called when there is something specific attached to the command, like "Patsy get in the car" or "Patsy back in the house". If I'm just standing there calling her, she might wander over part way, but then stops and stares.

[Weedhound]

Then she doesn't get allowed off a leash until it's automatic that when she hears her name she's already taking a step in your direction. Call her, reel her in, praise, praise, praise about 100 times.....or a thousand......or treats are also a good motivator some dogs as well.

She's just ignoring you that's all. She responds to a specfic command i'm very sure because it happens to be one she likes. I'd bet several $$ that if you said "Patsy go get in in the bathtub for a bath" she wouldn't listen to you either. They're like kids.....they know if you can back what you say or not.

[stinkyattic]

She's good about hopping in the tub when I point to it ans say "get in the tub". She had a playdate this weekend that involved some mud and a German shepherd, and a bath... not necessarily in that order lol!!!

[Weedhound]

I should have known.....Stinky NEVER has normal animals.....

I'll check out that website on the dogs. Understand I can only speak from a health point of view.......UNLESS YOUR ANIMALS ARE BIZARRE THERE TOO! :wtf:

[Weedhound]

The site talks about "recurrent defects." Any idea what those are? (Tried to look up genetics for breeders link but link is defective.....)

Ill's bro sounds like a good source :thumbsup: But can he train a cat to be a dog?

[stinkyattic]

I'm assuming that the defects they are talking about are breathing problems and joint problems that plague some breeds of bullies, but that breeders are getting past with hip x-rays on breeding stock and goals that are more geared towards function than show conformation points. Look at the physical difference between Irish setters from American show vs. Irish hunting lines. They aren't the same animal. The Amercian ones have way too short back legs to suit the intended purpose of flushing birds in a wide open field.