once again, issues..

[Twentyinches]

Ok, soil was changed and it seems it's causing some issues.

kalichakra and satori are the runner ups,
-about 22 days veg
-400 MH
24/7 light
-.5-.5-.5 comp man w/perlite (stinky's suggestion)
-no nutes yet given except a tiny dose of grow big
one day ago. aprox 1 tsp per 2 gal.
-73-77 temps
-RH around 65% (a tad high but under control)
-tap water-comes out apros 7.5ish, ph'd to 6.8 to use
-runoff 7, a tad high too but trying to lower
I'm sure i might be forgetting something so nobody get mad! :jointsmile:

these were just put into these pots so they may have not had much time to pull out of anything. (lol that sounds terrible) But I am unsure what the hell is going on? FF ocean forest worked better then this stuff, but it could be something else.

Any help would be much, much, muuchhh appreciated :thumbsup:

Twentyinches Reviewed by Twentyinches on 06-27-2008. once again, issues.. Ok, soil was changed and it seems it's causing some issues. kalichakra and satori are the runner ups, -about 22 days veg -400 MH 24/7 light -.5-.5-.5 comp man w/perlite (stinky's suggestion) -no nutes yet given except a tiny dose of grow big one day ago. aprox 1 tsp per 2 gal. -73-77 temps Rating: 5

[stinkyattic]

That type of pot has very poor drainage- the built in drip tray makes the holes in the bottom nearly useless. If you can take it off, and even add more holes, that would help.
You have a micronutrient deficiency or lockout. It could be pH or overwatering, or there may be something in your tap water that is making your plants miserable. Do you know the hardness of it? Does it taste okay, or does it stink like pool water? Yup, your pH is too high- get your fertilizer solution down to 6.5 so the runoff comes out lower, and also be careful not to overwater your plants.
If you have a micronutrient supplement, I'd mix up a weak solution of that and use it as a foliar spray to correct the deficiency. If not, you can use your FF Grow Big, mixed at ~1/4 what the bottle says, and mist that on your plants lightly. The primary deficiency I see is Magnesium. A pinch of Epsom Salts in your spray bottle will help that. The plants are definitely old enough for food, but until you get your pH sorted out, I'd foliar feed gently to keep the deficiencies from spreading.

More questions to nail down the cause:

What soil were they in before?
What size pots?
How long ago did you transplant them?
Were they showing symptoms before the transplant?

[Twentyinches]

That type of pot has very poor drainage- the built in drip tray makes the holes in the bottom nearly useless. If you can take it off, and even add more holes, that would help.
You have a micronutrient deficiency or lockout. It could be pH or overwatering, or there may be something in your tap water that is making your plants miserable. Do you know the hardness of it? Does it taste okay, or does it stink like pool water? Yup, your pH is too high- get your fertilizer solution down to 6.5 so the runoff comes out lower, and also be careful not to overwater your plants.
If you have a micronutrient supplement, I'd mix up a weak solution of that and use it as a foliar spray to correct the deficiency. If not, you can use your FF Grow Big, mixed at ~1/4 what the bottle says, and mist that on your plants lightly. The primary deficiency I see is Magnesium. A pinch of Epsom Salts in your spray bottle will help that. The plants are definitely old enough for food, but until you get your pH sorted out, I'd foliar feed gently to keep the deficiencies from spreading.

More questions to nail down the cause:

What soil were they in before?
What size pots?
How long ago did you transplant them?
Were they showing symptoms before the transplant?

Actually, these don't have a build in drip tray, its just all the way to the bottom-but more holes were drilled in the bottom, so drainage isn't an issue at all.
As far as the water, we drink it and it tastes good, but when I test the ppm out of tap its around 350-400 aprox. So it's a little hard, but never caused an issue before-that I know of....sometimes sources are hard to find. but there's no pool smell to it.
They were started in some MG starter (bad idea) as reg MG never gave an issue, but with that stuff it did. They were in some cups, like a red beer cup or the ones you see out camping.
I started to see issues so transplanted into these 6'' for now, (not final resting place) like a day ago, well 2 days ago today I think. When they were transplanted they went into the comp manure.
Thanks for the reply! ide hate to see these R.I.P... :jointsmile:

[Twentyinches]

oh and, I forgot... isn't it a pinch in a spray bottle with some dish soap too? I swear I saw that somewhere but can't find where!
thnks Stinky, (or anyone!)

[Twentyinches]

oh and, I forgot... isn't it a pinch in a spray bottle with some dish soap too? I swear I saw that somewhere but can't find where!
thnks Stinky, (or anyone!)

ohh, and how many times/how often?

[GreenLeaf420]

Everything W/ plants is start small and work up. See how she reacts to it...

Good Luck GL

[Twentyinches]

found it! I was looking for a thread back from Feb where Stinky explained how often etc, and I got it. So hopefully this works out :jointsmile:

[Twentyinches]

stinky (or anyone) could this just be from the hard water? it's around 400ppm aprox...
also would particles in the runoff being tested throw off the ph? because flushing doesn't seem to be lowering the soil ph for some reason..wtf! lol