how advanced would humans be?

[apocolips31]

How advanced would man kind be if we never had the dark ages and the Roman empire never fell?

apocolips31 Reviewed by apocolips31 on 06-26-2008. how advanced would humans be? How advanced would man kind be if we never had the dark ages and the Roman empire never fell? Rating: 5

[bhouncy]

The Greeks were very advanced in mathematics until such 'knowledge' was suppressed by religion.

[Revanche21]

hard to tell, but currently technology is insane!

just look at computers from the 60's compared to now, look at how life was different 200 years ago compared to now its simply amazing.

[space toker]

yes hard to say but we I think I head it speculated that we could have had warp drive 500 years ago and settled many nearby stars by now if events transpired differently from the days of ancient Greece onward through the Dark Ages and beyond. We would be a whole lot more advanced, that's for sure, if we had put all our energy into peaceful cooperation and helping each other, pooled all our resources and intellectual talent into constructive technology instead of destructive technology, and so on. We can still get our shit together, but we better start now as we could all be dead tommorrow if some huge disaster happens.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

is being "advanced" a matter of technology, or is it a matter of life quality?


perhaps both?



If we had 1000fold better technology NOW, we would almost surely be slaves, all of us.

if we had NO technology now (living like it was 1000 BC) we'd all be free, and have to WORK for a living, EVERY day, ceaselessly.

i think *this* is the middle ground.

[Breukelen advocaat]

When the human race lost access to it's sacred psychedelic plants, it started to regress to more ape-like behaviors - but with a very deadly twist: Rather than hurl feces at each other like the apes do, we have the intelligence to create weapons that fly through the air with the capability of destroying entire continents, even the whole planet.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

When the human race lost access to it's sacred psychedelic plants, it started to regress to more ape-like behaviors - but with a very deadly twist: Rather than hurl feces at each other like the apes do, we have the intelligence to create weapons that fly through the air with the capability of destroying entire continents, even the whole planet.

Quoted for emphasis.


people are stupider since the 30's, they just happen to have more technology.

stupid technology too... wasting our time kind of technology

[space toker]

is being "advanced" a matter of technology, or is it a matter of life quality?


perhaps both?



If we had 1000fold better technology NOW, we would almost surely be slaves, all of us.

if we had NO technology now (living like it was 1000 BC) we'd all be free, and have to WORK for a living, EVERY day, ceaselessly.

i think *this* is the middle ground.

I don't see any sense or logic to your reasoning beyond the opening statement which had me hopeful the rest of your post would be brilliant. Not that it is dumb by any means, I just don't see how you come up with that. If we had "1000fold" better technology, or put another way had technology 1000 years more advanced, why would we all be slaves? I say the technology would be our slave and we would all be free, let the machines and androids and the like do all the mindless monotonous manual labor while we all sit on the beach somewhere sipping a margarita and toking on a joint while collecting a fat check for it! Our only role would be to guide and manage the technology and maintain/repair it, some of that also could be done for us. We could be free to go hiking or swimming or skiing every day instead of report every day to a job we hate and pay the DEA's paychecks in the process. I see great hope for a better world.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

I don't see any sense or logic to your reasoning beyond the opening statement which had me hopeful the rest of your post would be brilliant. Not that it is dumb by any means, I just don't see how you come up with that. If we had "1000fold" better technology, or put another way had technology 1000 years more advanced, why would we all be slaves? I say the technology would be our slave and we would all be free, let the machines and androids and the like do all the mindless monotonous manual labor while we all sit on the beach somewhere sipping a margarita and toking on a joint while collecting a fat check for it! Our only role would be to guide and manage the technology and maintain/repair it, some of that also could be done for us. We could be free to go hiking or swimming or skiing every day instead of report every day to a job we hate and pay the DEA's paychecks in the process. I see great hope for a better world.

merely examples of my opening statement's point. the opening statement was all i had to say, the examples, mere after thoughts based on that first sentence.


the only logic i used in those examples was that if we were using technology 1000 times more powerful than what we have now, what would the cost be to ACHIEVING it? i assumed we would all be forced into labor from early childhood in order to accomplish technology that powerful, "this' fast. (modern day, with technology WE may never see for an eon)


however, in a perfect world, yeah, we would have robots that did all the work, but in order to reach that step, we would have to have technology that was developed for EVERYONE, not just one particular nation, wherein lies the clincher; everyone wants to be the most powerful ruler on earth (not literally EVERYone, but you know what i mean) and will use technology, by all means, to achieve dominance.


there is never a way or form that power craving people DON'T exist, they always do, and always will exist.

without them, there would be no people without any interest in power.



for every good influence breeds a polar opposite influence.

Light and Shadow beget each other, creating contrasts of which to use to differentiate them from one another; they are the same thing, just opposite sides of their respective coin.

[psychocat]

Advancement and technology don't remove what makes us human , the feelings we have , the ideas and creativity.
Because emotions make us what we are we must also contend with negative sides of each emotion and the consequences of those "drives".
The drive to procreate, the drive to be Alpha male/female , not to mention greed, envy and the other 5 deadly sins all lead to conflict on some level. The nationalism and patriotism you feel is simply an extension of the tribalism of our ancestors , even within a town there are tribe (neighbourhood) issues and the lowest level tribes are the street gangs we see more and more.

Add all this together and you will understand that what makes us human holds us back.