Thrive alive B-1 and Super Thrive are basically the same thing and way too much N as Stinky said. Get some Olivia's or Clonex solution for the cloner and something to keep the roots nice like hydrogaurd or the best Hygrozyme (every ten days). That is all you should need to clone. People like the dip-n-grow because it has alcohol in it for sterelizing. This works too but clone solution is generally used in cloners. Hope this helps and is only my 2 cents.