Budding a mother

[McDanger]

Here is what I was thinking about doing.
I have a plant from bagseed that I rescued from the window, growing in dirt currently under 4 40w flouro's (2warm, 2cool).
I want to switch to an aero system, so what I wanted to do was to take about 8 clones from this plant. Root them in a bubble cloner, then grow them in the aero system.
I don't want to have 2 veg rooms at the same time, so I was going to flower the dirt plant after the clones have rooted. I have not seen many people doing this so I need feedback on it. Will taking clones from this plant hurt the quality of the flowering. I just don't want to cut down the plant after I finally got it to grow good under the lights, but I also don't want to run 2 systems at the same time.
What are the ups and downs of doing this?

McDanger Reviewed by McDanger on 06-25-2008. Budding a mother Here is what I was thinking about doing. I have a plant from bagseed that I rescued from the window, growing in dirt currently under 4 40w flouro's (2warm, 2cool). I want to switch to an aero system, so what I wanted to do was to take about 8 clones from this plant. Root them in a bubble cloner, then grow them in the aero system. I don't want to have 2 veg rooms at the same time, so I was going to flower the dirt plant after the clones have rooted. I have not seen many people doing this so I Rating: 5

[stinkyattic]

Flowering a mother after her clones have rooted is very common. Clones take about 2 weeks to show if they will be viable, whcih is, coincidentally, the amount of time needed for a mother to recover from cloning before she is flowered.

[McDanger]

Thanks stinky. Now I have to run out and get some thrive alive for use in the cloner and I will be ready to go.
Later:stoned:

[stinkyattic]

Personally, I'd avoid Thrive products because of all the nitrogen. Pick up some dip-n-grow rooting hormone and you are good to go. Have you cloned before?

[McDanger]

I have 4 that I did with the root-N-grow into RW but they do not look too good. They are under a dome now. So I built a bubble cloner with the help of justanotherbozo, I was going to follow his thread on cloning with the bubbler using thrive alive 3ml/gal and superthrive.1drop/gal.

[PlantHeadJ]

Thrive alive B-1 and Super Thrive are basically the same thing and way too much N as Stinky said. Get some Olivia's or Clonex solution for the cloner and something to keep the roots nice like hydrogaurd or the best Hygrozyme (every ten days). That is all you should need to clone. People like the dip-n-grow because it has alcohol in it for sterelizing. This works too but clone solution is generally used in cloners. Hope this helps and is only my 2 cents.

[McDanger]

much appreciated, thanks

[justanotherbozo]

hi McDanger
let me say first that i'm no expert and Stinky knows way more than me about all phases of growing.

at the same time, i'm a little confused as to why added nitrogen in the bubble cloner solution is a bad thing, they only stay in there until they are rooted.

i've been told also that the one thing that Superthrive is truely good for is for promoting root development.

(the ThriveAlive B1 Red is supposed to help with root developmet as well)

as i said, i'm no expert and there are several ways to clone.
that being said, i love my cloner, since i built it, only 3 of my cuttings haven't rooted.

[McDanger]

8 are in there now, we'll see in 2 weeks.
Do you usually have to add to the res during the 2weeks of can it go thru a batch of clones without adding to it?

[justanotherbozo]

so far for me everything has been very simple
just make sure that the solution is high enough that the bubbles continually splash the dangling stems.
if you do that, they should be rooted long before you need to add to the res.
if you're gonna keep it in continuous operation i would change the resevoir solution every 10 days or so.

keep in mind also that you need to monitor the res. temperature (get a little fish tank thermometer at Walmart)
you want temps to be like 70 - 75 degrees (don't be manic about it, you just want the solution to be on the warm side)

anyway, good luck