Sen. McCain offers $300 million prize for new auto battery

[silkyblue]

Why not we turn back to steam engines??



lets clean for greener air


ban fossil fuels all together

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Why not we turn back to steam engines??



lets clean for greener air


ban fossil fuels all together

Steam engines can't move a car at the speed and distance of todays standards. We do have clean-burning steam power for our cities though... it's called nuclear.


You can't just ban fossil fuels. The economy, food, transportation, war efforts, and basically the whole country would grind to a hault. It's not like you can ban oil one day, and have us all on hydrogen the next.

[dragonrider]

The other problem with the idea of switching to steam engines is that STEAM is not a fuel. Old steam engines used to burn coal to make the steam pressure, so the fuel is still a fossil fuel. In fact, almost all exisitng electric power plants are steam turbines --- they just burn different things to make the steam to turn the turbines and make the electricity: coal, natural gas, whatever.

[jessejames12345]

This just in... "Halliburton developes new Hybrid battery tecnology, and claims $$300million from US govermnet " :wtf::jointsmile:

wouldent be suprized ...

[boaz]

I'm an algae rancher runnin' 100 billion head of free-range sprulinas in a pond out back. It's a great life, and there's nothing like takin' 'em to market on one of the great long-distance algae drives. "Yah! Get along little algaes!"

:S5:

rollin rolling rolling ... keep those prankton flowing :stoned: the seaweed life is the life for me. (sorry :rastasmoke: )


here a blurb from wiki

Algae fuel, also called algal fuel, oilgae[1] or third generation biofuel, is a biofuel from algae. Compared with second generation biofuels, algae are high-yield high-cost (30 times more energy per acre than terrestrial crops) feedstocks to produce biofuels. Since the whole organism converts sunlight into oil, algae can produce more oil in an area the size of a two-car garage than an entire football field of soybeans.[2]

. . .

The United States Department of Energy estimates that if algae fuel replaced all the petroleum fuel in the United States, it would require 15,000 square miles (40,000 square kilometers), which is a few thousand square miles larger than Maryland, or 1.3 Belgiums.[3] This is less than 1/7th the area of corn harvested in the United States in 2000.[10][11]

In the 2008 U.S. Department of Energy Biomass and Biofuels Update to Congress (by the Office of Biomass Program)[12] appears the move to algae fuels.[13]

[silkyblue]

Steam engines can't move a car at the speed and distance of todays standards. We do have clean-burning steam power for our cities though... it's called nuclear.


You can't just ban fossil fuels. The economy, food, transportation, war efforts, and basically the whole country would grind to a hault. It's not like you can ban oil one day, and have us all on hydrogen the next.
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yes they can quit using fossil fuel and switch to nukes

who cares if we get a Chernobyl

[dragonrider]

rollin rolling rolling ... keep those prankton flowing :stoned: the seaweed life is the life for me. (sorry :rastasmoke: )

Home, home on the pond
Where the oilgae biofuel's spawned
Where never is heard a discouraging word
And the water is slimy all day!

[Markass]

That's a lot of money...Wish Ron Paul had that kind of money, he may have got the nomination and we'd have a choice for someone who's going to fix some problems rather than beat around the bush.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

That's a lot of money...Wish Ron Paul had that kind of money, he may have got the nomination and we'd have a choice for someone who's going to fix some problems rather than beat around the bush.

Ron Paul got plenty a dollar from a lot of donors, and gained more support from troops than any other candidate; more than twice as much as the second-place contender for that title, Barack Obama. His loss wasn't due to lack of funds; it was lack of popular support pure and simple. What can a guy expect, running for the Republican party with promises of ending the drug war, immediately pulling out of iraq, and generally vying for state independance from the federal government's right-wing monopolization on morality? He never stood a chance, but I think he accomplished what he really set out to do; bring public attention to issues completely and utterly ignored by the other condidates of both parties. God knows I've yet to hear a single other candidate talk about taking the federal reserve out of private hands and returning monetary control to the government as it should be.

[Markass]

Anywho, I noticed that john mccain has promised this 'if elected.'

I don't want this fucking yoo-hoo wasting 300 million dollars on something as stupid as this. This country has enough problems with spending as it is..